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Old 11-05-2012, 02:56 PM  
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So after a fairly long period of dithering, I'm going to vote for Romney and, less surprisingly, Scott Brown. The vote for Romney is, of course, wasted, as Massachusetts will go into Obama's column.

I could go on and on as to why, but essentially it boils down to this -- I've long stated that I want moderate candidates who have a more business-like approach to running government. I want them to be fiscally conservative and socially liberal. Under the current circumstances, I think it's even more important that we start being fiscally conservative (though not in a dramatic fashion such that the tepid recovery is undermined), and pro-business in order to encourage growth. I also cross my fingers that Mitt won't simply cave to the religious right and social conservatives to keep them in line. I know that his personal policies on such matters are, well, wishy-washy at best.

In voting for Romney, I'm not really rejecting Obama, as I don't think he's done such a bad job. He's had brutal circumstances, etc. I just think Mitt is the better candidate under the current circumstances.

And, frankly, I sorta feel like if I don't vote for Romney, then I might as well just admit I'd never vote for a Republican for POTUS. Usually their candidate is further to the right than I am comfortable with. Having nominated a more moderate candidate, I should reward that effort. Or something like that.

As for Brown, it's a relatively moderate Republican versus a die-hard liberal. I'll take the moderate.
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Old 11-06-2012, 09:19 AM   #76
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:14 AM   #77
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So after a fairly long period of dithering, I'm going to vote for Romney and, less surprisingly, Scott Brown. The vote for Romney is, of course, wasted, as Massachusetts will go into Obama's column.

I could go on and on as to why, but essentially it boils down to this -- I've long stated that I want moderate candidates who have a more business-like approach to running government. I want them to be fiscally conservative and socially liberal. Under the current circumstances, I think it's even more important that we start being fiscally conservative (though not in a dramatic fashion such that the tepid recovery is undermined), and pro-business in order to encourage growth. I also cross my fingers that Mitt won't simply cave to the religious right and social conservatives to keep them in line. I know that his personal policies on such matters are, well, wishy-washy at best.

In voting for Romney, I'm not really rejecting Obama, as I don't think he's done such a bad job. He's had brutal circumstances, etc. I just think Mitt is the better candidate under the current circumstances.

And, frankly, I sorta feel like if I don't vote for Romney, then I might as well just admit I'd never vote for a Republican for POTUS. Usually their candidate is further to the right than I am comfortable with. Having nominated a more moderate candidate, I should reward that effort. Or something like that.

As for Brown, it's a relatively moderate Republican versus a die-hard liberal. I'll take the moderate.
The GOP does not seem to be making the effort to be more moderate. Nominating a "moderate" Romney seems to be a cynical move, and not sure why cynicism is something to be rewarded.

Romney seems quite cynical himself. I can't believe he tried to blast Rick Perry on the debate stage about Texas allowing in-state tuition for undocumented immigrant children brought to Texas by their parents. It seems to me that a bishop in a church that evangelizes around the world would have more compassion and I think his sincere belief would be to agree with Rick Perry on the issue, but that he cynically decided to be Tom Tancredo in the primary.

And why would you vote for a guy that said what he said in the 47% video. That seems to me to be another example where Romney said things that he did not truly believe because he was a salesman who had sized up his audience that day and figured he would cynically repeat to them the horrid things he assumed that they must believe.

Romney does not deserve to win because demographically speaking, the only people who tolerate an obvious phony like him are white boyz.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:26 AM   #78
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The GOP does not seem to be making the effort to be more moderate. Nominating a "moderate" Romney seems to be a cynical move, and not sure why cynicism is something to be rewarded.

Romney seems quite cynical himself. I can't believe he tried to blast Rick Perry on the debate stage about Texas allowing in-state tuition for undocumented immigrant children brought to Texas by their parents. It seems to me that a bishop in a church that evangelizes around the world would have more compassion and I think his sincere belief would be to agree with Rick Perry on the issue, but that he cynically decided to be Tom Tancredo in the primary.

And why would you vote for a guy that said what he said in the 47% video. That seems to me to be another example where Romney said things that he did not truly believe because he was a salesman who had sized up his audience that day and figured he would cynically repeat to them the horrid things he assumed that they must believe.

Romney does not deserve to win because demographically speaking, the only people who tolerate an obvious phony like him are white boyz.
Racist post from a liberal. Shocking.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:51 AM   #79
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The GOP does not seem to be making the effort to be more moderate. Nominating a "moderate" Romney seems to be a cynical move, and not sure why cynicism is something to be rewarded.

Romney seems quite cynical himself. I can't believe he tried to blast Rick Perry on the debate stage about Texas allowing in-state tuition for undocumented immigrant children brought to Texas by their parents. It seems to me that a bishop in a church that evangelizes around the world would have more compassion and I think his sincere belief would be to agree with Rick Perry on the issue, but that he cynically decided to be Tom Tancredo in the primary.

And why would you vote for a guy that said what he said in the 47% video. That seems to me to be another example where Romney said things that he did not truly believe because he was a salesman who had sized up his audience that day and figured he would cynically repeat to them the horrid things he assumed that they must believe.

Romney does not deserve to win because demographically speaking, the only people who tolerate an obvious phony like him are white boyz.
Do you normally type that way? Like an idiot?
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Old 11-06-2012, 02:11 PM   #80
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I commend your reasonableness. I have to admit that I had my doubts that you'd pull the trigger for Romney (and your kind words for Obama are a bit disappointing), but I think your reasoning is sound. Romney is about as socially moderate as you can expect from the GOP in the sense that I don't think he will make social issues a focus of his administration. And it's hard to imagine a candidate from either party having more business executive experience and more of a campaign focus on addressing our fiscal and economic issues than he does.

Oh, come on patteeu.

Amnorix only voted for Romney because he knew it would never matter in Assachussets.

Now he sees himself proclaiming forevermore that he is an open-minded, equitable, sober political voice, and anything but a devout liberal.
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Old 11-06-2012, 02:21 PM   #81
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Oh, and not that anyone on this board cares, but YES to right to die in Massachusetts and YES to medical marijuana in Massachusetts (noting that I've never tried pot in my entire life, and yes I'm serious).
I don't get the resistance to MM.

If Oxycontin, a drug that is significantly more harmful and responsible for more deaths each year then any kind of Marijuana, is legal - then pot should be too.
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Old 11-06-2012, 02:28 PM   #82
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I don't get the resistance to MM.

If Oxycontin, a drug that is significantly more harmful and responsible for more deaths each year then any kind of Marijuana, is legal - then pot should be too.
What don't you get about uptight big-government conservative hypocrites imposing their morals on everyone?
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Old 11-06-2012, 03:25 PM   #83
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Racist post from a liberal. Shocking.
Is there now an ethnic classification for phony baloney. I thought Mitt Romney was a caucasian Mormon. I did not know that it was politically incorrect to criticize fake shape shifting wafflers as if they were a race of their own.

I do not think it is fair to Romney's grandkids for you to say that they are racially classified as phony baloneys.

Romney deserves to lose because he is the biggest phony to get a major party nomination.

I hope he does lose and I hope he runs for the GOP nomination in 2016, just to hear how opposite his positions will be that year.
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Old 11-06-2012, 03:39 PM   #84
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Is there now an ethnic classification for phony baloney. I thought Mitt Romney was a caucasian Mormon. I did not know that it was politically incorrect to criticize fake shape shifting wafflers as if they were a race of their own.

I do not think it is fair to Romney's grandkids for you to say that they are racially classified as phony baloneys.

Romney deserves to lose because he is the biggest phony to get a major party nomination.

I hope he does lose and I hope he runs for the GOP nomination in 2016, just to hear how opposite his positions will be that year.
I think you missed the point.
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Old 11-06-2012, 03:44 PM   #85
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Is there now an ethnic classification for phony baloney. I thought Mitt Romney was a caucasian Mormon. I did not know that it was politically incorrect to criticize fake shape shifting wafflers as if they were a race of their own.

I do not think it is fair to Romney's grandkids for you to say that they are racially classified as phony baloneys.

Romney deserves to lose because he is the biggest phony to get a major party nomination.

I hope he does lose and I hope he runs for the GOP nomination in 2016, just to hear how opposite his positions will be that year.
Oh he is a phony and that is a fact. Not anywhere near the level of phony Obama is but yes a phony~
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