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View Poll Results: The biggest reasons that Mitt will lose next week is:
The liberal media's conspiracy 7 14.58%
Stupid voters 16 33.33%
Mitt's a lousy candidate 26 54.17%
The election is rigged! 2 4.17%
The impact of Sandy 4 8.33%
The gender gap 10 20.83%
Mitt's a Mormon 7 14.58%
All of the Above 0 0%
All of the Above, except the Sandy thing 0 0%
Whatever GAZ says... 1 2.08%
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Old 11-02-2012, 12:57 PM  
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So, why is Mitt going to lose?

Poll Forthcoming.

Bottom-line for me: Obama hasn't been great, but Mitt is an awful candidate for America in 2012. For what it's worth, he'd have been a fine candidate for the GOP in the 1880s....but this ain't 1880.

290-248....you read it here.

FTR, the odds are 3:1, or 4:1. So, yes, I could end up being wrong...just sayin'.

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Old 11-05-2012, 08:57 AM   #136
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If Romney loses this election (I'm not ready to concede that as a fait accompli), a major reason (albeit not the only reason) will be the extreme right-wing policies of the Republican party.
No it will be because of war due to his advisors all being the same as Bush had. Take a look at what polls have consistently said about these wars of choice we keep getting into post 2000.

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Romney has several hurdles to overcome in his race against Obama. He is being held back by the Todd Akins and Richard Mourdocks of his own party who make idiotic comments about rape and God's will and women's bodies shutting down in cases of "legitimate" rape. He's being held back by the Michelle Bachmans and the Rick Santorums who are hell-bent to impose their strict moral and religious values on a voting bloc that doesn't share those values. And to some extent he's also being held back by the policy failures of the Bush administration.
He needs them just as much to win too.

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Romney has been by no means a perfect candidate. He waited far too long to repudiate the attacks on his personal record, and he didn't hit Obama nearly hard enough on the current Benghazi scandal in the last debate. But the major problem for the Romney candidacy is that he was put in the very difficult position of having to convince the Tea Partiers that he was conservative enough to get the Republican nomination, and now that conservatism (faux that it may be) is unappealing to a large percentage of voters.
Which is why they shouldn't have nominated him. However the FIX was in by the Establishment GOP'ers. Serves them right.
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Which is why they shouldn't have nominated him. However the FIX was in by the Establishment GOP'ers. Serves them right.
If the GOP is to fix itself, it definitely won't be in a way that you are thinking.
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Old 11-05-2012, 01:03 PM   #138
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And, THIS, is why Romney will lose:

The Gilded Age vs. The 21st Century

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...a24_story.html

By E.J. Dionne

WASHINGTON -- The 2012 campaign began on Aug. 2, 2011, when President Obama signed the deal ending the debt-ceiling fiasco. At that moment, the president relinquished his last illusions that the current, radical version of the Republican Party could be dealt with as a governing partner. From then on, Obama was determined to fight -- and to win.

It was the right choice, the only alternative to capitulation.

A Republican majority both inspired and intimidated by the tea party was demanding that Obama renounce every principle dear to him about the role of government in 21st-century America. And so he set out to defeat those who threatened to bring back the economic policies of the 1890s.

Obama took the oath of office before a vast and euphoric crowd, but as he raised his hand, he was inheriting an economy worsening by the day. And he was about to confront a Republican Party that took its setback as an imperative to radicalize.

In the wake of the failures of George W. Bush's presidency, Republicans would ascribe their party's problems to Bush as a big-spender, ignoring the major culprits in the country's fiscal troubles: a downturn that began on their watch, and their own support for two tax cuts at a time of two wars. They would block, obstruct, stall and denounce all of Obama's initiatives, and abuse the rules of the Senate to demand that every bill would need 60 votes.

And then came the tea party. It was, all at once, a rebirth of the old far right from John Birch Society days, a partisan movement seeded by right-wing billionaires, and a cry of anguish from older, middle-class Americans fearful over the speed of social change. The GOP establishment rode the tea party tiger to power in 2010, and then ended up inside. Republicans who dared to deal or compromise risked humiliation in primaries at the hands of a far right certain that the president of the United States was a subversive figure.

Nonetheless, Obama kept trying to work with them. His plans and proposals were geared not toward his progressive base but toward moderates in both parties: no public option in the health care law, plenty of tax cuts in a stimulus whose size was held down, a very temperate reform of a dysfunctional financial system.

Obama's aides are unanimous in saying that the breaking point came when Republicans, filled with tea party zeal, were willing to endanger the nation's financial standing to achieve steep budget cuts during the debt-ceiling fight. When House Speaker John Boehner walked away from a deal that conservatives of another era would have hailed as a great victory, Obama realized a grand bargain would be a chimera until he could win the battle about first principles.

Everything you needed to know about Obama's argument was laid out on Dec. 6, 2011, at a high school in Osawatomie, Kan., the place where Theodore Roosevelt had laid out the core themes of American progressivism a century earlier.

"Just as there was in Teddy Roosevelt's time," Obama declared, "there is a certain crowd in Washington who, for the last few decades, have said, let's respond to this economic challenge with the same old tune. 'The market will take care of everything,' they tell us. If we just cut more regulations and cut more taxes -- especially for the wealthy -- our economy will grow stronger. ... even if prosperity doesn't trickle down, well, that's the price of liberty. Now, it's a simple theory. ... But here's the problem: It doesn't work. It has never worked."

In Mitt Romney, Obama was blessed with an opponent who embraced that theory, not only in his move far to the right to secure the Republican nomination but also in his own career as a private equity capitalist. Romney may have flipped and flopped and flipped again on issues he didn't care about, but his view of American capitalism and American government never wavered. If Teddy Roosevelt fought against the policies of the Gilded Age, Obama is fighting a Republican Party determined to bring the Gilded Age back and undo the achievements of a century.

And so, beneath the attacks, the counterattacks, and the billions invested by small numbers of the very rich to sway the undecided, we face a choice on Tuesday that is worthy of a great democracy. My hunch is that the country will not go backward, because that's not what Americans do.

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Give me a short list of them and I'll tell you where I stand.
I'll start.

Gay marriage: don't care marriage should be between people and their churches, should have nothing to do with government.
Welfare: none, nada, zip; this includes grants, corporate, foodstamps, medicaid, section 8, social security, everything gone
Unions: public sector-gone, private sector-same as currently, up to the states
Abortion: don't care- should be up to the states.
Firearms: no federal restrictions what so ever; if a state decides to enact some, that is their decision and the Supreme Court should rule against them.

That's all the social issues I can think of, throw up some more.
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Gay marriage:
Not a Federal matter and not part of the powers of a president to play a role except to veto any bill as violating state's rights.

Welfare: none, nada, zip; this includes grants, corporate, foodstamps, medicaid, section 8, social security, everything gone Okay but states do have authority to do these things under Federalism. I my state I really limit such things so it was not permanent.


Unions:
public sector-gone, private sector-same as currently, up to the states
I agree with this but in a free country a person has a right to form or join a union.
What's wrong with them is that some force people to join them or they don't get hired.
Public sector unions....I completely oppose. ( don't know about a right to that )

Abortion: don't care- should be up to the states.

Firearms:
no federal restrictions what so ever; if a state decides to enact some, that is their decision and the Supreme Court should rule against them.
The incorporation doctrine is bogus and the SC should not infringe on some modest regulations made by the states. The Constitution restrains the Federal govt primarily.
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If the GOP is to fix itself, it definitely won't be in a way that you are thinking.
Well I am not a libertarian but more like a Burke Conservative. And those guys are talking otherwise. The market will have the last say when things fall apart—as they are in Europe and did in the Soviet Union.
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Well I am not a libertarian but more like a Burke Conservative. And those guys are talking otherwise. The market will have the last say when things fall apart—as they are in Europe and did in the Soviet Union.
Either way, the GOP would screw itself by embracing the lunatic fringe--no matter the source.
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Gay marriage: Not a Federal matter and not part of the powers of a president to play a role except to veto any bill as violating state's rights.

Welfare: none, nada, zip; this includes grants, corporate, foodstamps, medicaid, section 8, social security, everything gone Okay but states do have authority to do these things under Federalism. I my state I really limit such things so it was not permanent.


Unions: public sector-gone, private sector-same as currently, up to the states
I agree with this but in a free country a person has a right to form or join a union.
What's wrong with them is that some force people to join them or they don't get hired.
Public sector unions....I completely oppose. ( don't know about a right to that )

Abortion: don't care- should be up to the states.

Firearms: no federal restrictions what so ever; if a state decides to enact some, that is their decision and the Supreme Court should rule against them.
The incorporation doctrine is bogus and the SC should not infringe on some modest regulations made by the states. The Constitution restrains the Federal govt primarily.
You know....seriously, you SHOULD have been born in the 1800s. Dead serious.
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I voted. Voters, media, and Sandy, in that order with heavy emphasis on voters and very little on Sandy.
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You know....seriously, you SHOULD have been born in the 1800s. Dead serious.
You mean when we were a free country? Sure I'll take that era, pinko.
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I voted. Voters, media, and Sandy, in that order with heavy emphasis on voters and very little on Sandy.
Thanks for the belated response. Ah, the arrogance of plutocrats and their sychophants.
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Thanks for the belated response. Ah, the arrogance of plutocrats and their sychophants.
I voted as soon as I thought Romney would lose. Before that, the question didn't even make sense.
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I think the poll does not list the option that Obama will win because he has a HOF campaign team and a lot of enthusiastic volunteers.

The youth vote share was as strong as 2008. I think one factor is that a lot of teeny boppers who fell in love with Obama in 2008 but were too young to vote then are glad to be able to vote for him now.

Also, the GOP has not convinced a majority of voters that B*sh did not suck and that a new GOP President would be any different.

I also think a majority of voters know that the GOP has gone overboard in refusing to work with President Obama.
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I think the poll does not list the option that Obama will win because he has a HOF campaign team and a lot of enthusiastic volunteers.

The youth vote share was as strong as 2008. I think one factor is that a lot of teeny boppers who fell in love with Obama in 2008 but were too young to vote then are glad to be able to vote for him now.

Also, the GOP has not convinced a majority of voters that B*sh did not suck and that a new GOP President would be any different.

I also think a majority of voters know that the GOP has gone overboard in refusing to work with President Obama.
I agree with most of that too.
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