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Old 11-05-2012, 08:52 PM  
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*****OFFICIAL 2012 U.S. GENERAL ELECTION RESULTS*****

Obama re-elected with Ohio win...

Dems maintain control of Senate, GOP maintains control of House.

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Old 11-06-2012, 11:29 PM   #1516
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Blame the system.

Although if it were based on popular vote, the same people that have lost every election other than three, would have lost again tonight.

I'm sorry but it's a lose-lose.
actually, I don't blame the system. I blame 'we the people.' the people of the united states are fat, lazy, selfish and never research who they're voting for (for the most part).

does the candidate look good in a suit? do they give a good speech? do they say the right things to my face? these three questions are what the OVERWHELMING ****ING MAJORITY of those in this country vote on. I'm ****ing serious--it's pathetic.

never does anyone ever ponder much further than 'what can they do for me?'

ask not what your country can do for you--ASK FOR WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR YOUR COUNTRY.

alas, those days are gone.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:29 PM   #1517
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Yeah, because the Democrats want to tell women they can't have an abortion, under ANY circumstance, whether it's incest, rape or the life of the mother.

The Democrats ALSO want to outlaw In-Vitro fertilization, which helps hundreds of thousands of couples conceive every year.

The Democrats also want to outlaw stem cell research and the teaching of evolution in public schools.

Also marijuana is bad. The Democrats want that outlawed, too.

Damn Democrats. Always infringing on my rights as a human being.
No the democrats want to tell me I can't have a few French fries with my happy meal and I have to burn ethanol blends instead of straight fossil fuels.

Liberty is liberty, my friend.

Look the sooner we all realize the the whole Dems vs. Pubs is an elaborate ruse, the better.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:31 PM   #1518
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Yeah, because the Democrats want to tell women they can't have an abortion, under ANY circumstance, whether it's incest, rape or the life of the mother.

The Democrats ALSO want to outlaw In-Vitro fertilization, which helps hundreds of thousands of couples conceive every year.

The Democrats also want to outlaw stem cell research and the teaching of evolution in public schools.

Also marijuana is bad. The Democrats want that outlawed, too, even medical marijuana.

Damn Democrats. Always infringing on my rights as a human being.
yeah, hit those social issues. they're the only ones where they even come close to libertarian values.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:31 PM   #1519
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Wiggins is winning retention in the Iowa supreme court

Remember the 3 judges who got tossed 2 years ago for legalizing gay marriage? Wiggins was in that majority, he was up, and the holy rollers were back campaigning for him to get thrown out, too.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:32 PM   #1520
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No the democrats want to tell me I can't have a few French fries with my happy meal and I have to burn ethanol blends instead of straight fossil fuels.

Liberty is liberty, my friend.

Look the sooner we all realize the the whole Dems vs. Pubs is an elaborate ruse, the better.
if this were a facebook post, I'd click 'like.'
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:32 PM   #1521
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No the democrats want to tell me I can't have a few French fries with my happy meal and I have to burn ethanol blends instead of straight fossil fuels.
I didn't realize that French Fries were the same as abortion or gay marriage.

My bad.

I hope that you don't mind having a few less french fries with your meal.

I have a few friends whose lives would be much emptier without their children conceived through In Vitro.

But I guess in the end, it's the same exact thing.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:32 PM   #1522
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yeah, hit those social issues. they're the only ones where they even come close to libertarian values.
But they're fundamentally, by their direct nature of human rights, more important than fiscal policy.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:33 PM   #1523
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No the democrats want to tell me I can't have a few French fries with my happy meal and I have to burn ethanol blends instead of straight fossil fuels.

Liberty is liberty, my friend.

Look the sooner we all realize the the whole Dems vs. Pubs is an elaborate ruse, the better.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:33 PM   #1524
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No the democrats want to tell me I can't have a few French fries with my happy meal and I have to burn ethanol blends instead of straight fossil fuels.

Liberty is liberty, my friend.

Look the sooner we all realize the the whole Dems vs. Pubs is an elaborate ruse, the better.
This. Don't forget things like NDAA, The Patriot Act, etc. Obama has cut down on civil liberties just as much if not more than Bush. He's also shut down dispensaries. Dems & Libertarians are also apart on Foreign policy.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:33 PM   #1525
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I'm a republican and sadly the picture you're painting isn't too far off. The Rep party won't go away, but they will not be viable again until they re-evaluate their image and scope.
The R's have to reach the Latino & the African American vote. They have to somehow reverse the picture the D's have painted on them as being against their race. They have to reach and win those voters in the coming elections. There is no doubt the younger generation is speaking up as we found out in 2008, the tide has turned 4 years ago and it was cemented tonight.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:34 PM   #1526
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I didn't realize that French Fries were the same as abortion or gay marriage.

My bad.

I hope that you don't mind having a few less french fries with your meal.

I have a few friends whose lives would be much emptier without their children conceived through In Vitro.

But I guess in the end, it's the same exact thing.
I do mind having my food choices ****ed with.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:34 PM   #1527
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yeah, hit those social issues. they're the only ones where they even come close to libertarian values.
I'm a fiscal conservative and a social liberal.

Unfortunately, fiscal conservatism does not exist in 2012.

So, in lieu of that, I vote social conservatism.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:34 PM   #1528
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the republicans will say that this wasn't a mandate election... BULLSHIT. it was absolutely a mandate election. change or die, republican party.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:35 PM   #1529
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I didn't realize that French Fries were the same as abortion or gay marriage.

My bad.

I hope that you don't mind having a few less french fries with your meal.

I have a few friends whose lives would be much emptier without their children conceived through In Vitro.

But I guess in the end, it's the same exact thing.
Dude don't be deliberately obtuse. Those are simple and easy to understand examples. If you want to get serious, how about we talk about a health insurance mandate?

The simple fact is that NEITHER party is even remotely "libertarian".
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:35 PM   #1530
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I do mind having my food choices ****ed with.
Has that happened in Kansas?

Is it impossible to ask for two orders of fries in lieu of a large?
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