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Old 11-05-2012, 08:52 PM  
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*****OFFICIAL 2012 U.S. GENERAL ELECTION RESULTS*****

Obama re-elected with Ohio win...

Dems maintain control of Senate, GOP maintains control of House.

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Old 11-06-2012, 11:35 PM   #1531
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The R's have to reach the Latino & the African American vote. They have to somehow reverse the picture the D's have painted on them as being against their race. They have to reach and win those voters in the coming elections. There is no doubt the younger generation is speaking up as we found out in 2008, the tide has turned 4 years ago and it was cemented tonight.
The guy who connected with those groups you mentioned in the Republican party was called out as a nutjob by the likes of people like you.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:35 PM   #1532
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Ask any libertarian how they became one, and they'll tell you it's because of fetuses. That's all libertarians care about is fetuses. Fetuses fetuses fetuses. They're so important to a person's natural freedom that nothing else really matters by comparison.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:36 PM   #1533
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:36 PM   #1534
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Dude don't be deliberately obtuse. Those are simple and easy to understand examples. If you want to get serious, how about we talk about a health insurance mandate?

The simple fact is that NEITHER party is even remotely "libertarian".
Yeah, again, because the Democrats want to regulate who and who can't have a child.

Brilliant.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:36 PM   #1535
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:36 PM   #1536
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I know.

If Romney had run as a Democrat, I would have voted for him.
So voting for party is your reason for voting for Obama ?
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:36 PM   #1537
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Ask any libertarian how they became one, and they'll tell you it's because of fetuses. That's all libertarians care about is fetuses. Fetuses fetuses fetuses. They're so important to a person's natural freedom that nothing else really matters by comparison.
No, that's why Republicans become Republicans.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:36 PM   #1538
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I didn't realize that French Fries were the same as abortion or gay marriage.

My bad.

I hope that you don't mind having a few less french fries with your meal.

I have a few friends whose lives would be much emptier without their children conceived through In Vitro.

But I guess in the end, it's the same exact thing.
What about families that their lives are empty because they couldn't adopt a child because a child was aborted. We can go back and forth on all this crap all night.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:36 PM   #1539
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I'm a fiscal conservative and a social liberal.

Unfortunately, fiscal conservatism does not exist in 2012.

So, in lieu of that, I vote social conservatism.
I actually also tend to be fiscally conservative and socially liberal. the sad thing is, it's hard for me to get behind any politician from either party. I love obama's stances on social issues, hate his stances on fiscal/health care (though I'm not completely against socialized health care/true health reform). I agree more with romney on the economy, but hate a lot of his (and almost all republican's) stances on social issues.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:36 PM   #1540
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Wiggins is winning retention in the Iowa supreme court

Remember the 3 judges who got tossed 2 years ago for legalizing gay marriage? Wiggins was in that majority, he was up, and the holy rollers were back campaigning for him to get thrown out, too.
That was one of my favorite results. F vanderplatts.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:37 PM   #1541
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:37 PM   #1542
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It goes much deeper than that. By building such a broad, diverse base, the Democrats have essentially painted the Republicans into a corner. The only issues that are "up for grabs" are divisive enough that Republicans can't win.

Kudos to the Democrats. They've built a power base that's essentially unassailable.
Here's an idea. They could just fall in line on all of their stupid assed views, and run on their "fiscal responsibility". Maybe we could REALLY choose presidents based solely on who we believe will lead our country to prosperity for a change.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:37 PM   #1543
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So voting for party is your reason for voting for Obama ?
My party?

You're such a ****ing dumbass, Roy. It's actually laughable.

I'm an Independent. I voted Obama/Biden and for EVERY Republican on the Cali state ballot.

Will you ever become any smarter or just get dumber and dumber?
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:38 PM   #1544
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Has that happened in Kansas?

Is it impossible to ask for two orders of fries in lieu of a large?
It's happening in this country, and it's happening because liberals want it to. I don't need my hand held, thanks. I'm with them when they're expanding freedom, and I'm against them when they're not.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:39 PM   #1545
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But they're fundamentally, by their direct nature of human rights, more important than fiscal policy.
At this stage of the game it is arguable.

Human rights can only be protected by a stable government. A government that is broke is, by definition, unstable.

History is littered with examples so let's make sure we keep that in mind.
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