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Old 11-07-2012, 08:56 AM  
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GOP, 2012: Angry White Men and Their Women

Honestly, that is what the Republican party has become. Think about it...

Think about most of the obnoxious conservatives in this forum: Angry White Men....it says it all. They've been drinking the Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck Kool-Aid for over 20 years now. Is it really surprising, then, that the party no longer appeals to anyone else--especially with their seething contempt and venomous attacks toward anyone who dares to disagree with them?

The Democrats went though a similar thing...between 1968 and 1988, when they lost 5 out of 6 Presidential elections, because they were out-of-touch with the country (too beholden to bleeding heart liberals and minorities.) Between 1992 and 2012, the Republicans have now lost the popular vote for President in 5 of the 6 elections, for the same reason (too beholden to the Tea Party and talk radio addicts.)

Until the GOP admits they have a a big problem, and are out-of-touch, and seek to moderate their policies and rhetoric....they will remain the party of Angry White Men and the Women Who Love Them. They must find ways to appeal to larger numbers of Blacks, Asians, women, and Hispanics--otherwise they are screwed. And they will continue to struggle to win national elections.

It's simple math. Demographic shifts have become political inertia, and the GOP has to recognize that reality--instead of pretending not to notice.

In 1992, Clinton brought the Democratic party back toward the mainstream. For the GOP to turn things around in 2016, they'll need to do the same thing. Whenever political parties are sucked into lunatic fringe politics, they alienate the voters who matter--in our republic, a majority. Republicans had better soon remember the role of majority rule in our country, or they may yet become this century's version of the Whigs.
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Old 11-07-2012, 10:12 AM   #76
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bullshit!

Romney was a vote for Obama, that liberal twit couldn't unite the base. Blame yourselves for the horrible GOP representative.
Yet, Brainiac thought he was an ideal candidate.
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Old 11-07-2012, 10:16 AM   #77
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I really think the way they need to better appeal to minorities is to be more aggressive in not accepting the fact that Democrats keep selling that if you're Republican you're racist or bigoted. Look at this thread alone- the premise is basically implying that if you're Republican you're an old white racist.
If you're accusing people of demagoguery, the left does it just the same. They're just more successful at doing it. And now that the feel the have minorities in their pocket they're moving to the War on Women rhetoric.

When your platform includes trying to limit access to contraceptives and abortions, yeah, it's more than 'rhetoric"

sorry - GOP needs to flat out reverse its stance on that.
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Old 11-07-2012, 10:17 AM   #78
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When your platform includes trying to limit access to contraceptives and abortions, yeah, it's more than 'rhetoric"

sorry - GOP needs to flat out reverse its stance on that.
contraceptives yes, abortion no way.
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Old 11-07-2012, 10:17 AM   #79
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Old 11-07-2012, 10:18 AM   #80
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contraceptives yes, abortion no way.
Then you simply don't want to win.
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Old 11-07-2012, 10:19 AM   #81
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which, in turn, was a vote for Obama.
Only if you lived in a swing state (I dont). Thanks Electoral College!
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Old 11-07-2012, 10:19 AM   #82
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Then you simply don't want to win.
We will win with a candidate that energizes the base, not by moving farther to the left and forsaking our values.
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Old 11-07-2012, 10:20 AM   #83
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I really think the way they need to better appeal to minorities is to be more aggressive in not accepting the fact that Democrats keep selling that if you're Republican you're racist or bigoted. Look at this thread alone- the premise is basically implying that if you're Republican you're an old white racist.
If you're accusing people of demagoguery, the left does it just the same. They're just more successful at doing it. And now that the feel the have minorities in their pocket they're moving to the War on Women rhetoric.
I know it is only anecdotal but I spent alot of time with my dad's family and they were all hard core R's that watched Fox News 24/7. They are old white people and the reason why they hated Obama and would never vote for him was because he was black. They would never come out and say it but from their inferences it was obvious.

They also believed he was a socialist and a Muslim...

Again I don't want to generalize because I know all Republicans\conservatives are not like that but there is a large group that is.
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Old 11-07-2012, 10:20 AM   #84
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Then you simply don't want to win.
this.

Concede the pointless bickering on gay marriage, abortion. It's a hopeless fight for the GOP.
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Old 11-07-2012, 10:20 AM   #85
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When your platform includes trying to limit access to contraceptives and abortions, yeah, it's more than 'rhetoric"

sorry - GOP needs to flat out reverse its stance on that.
Saying you don't want to pay for someone's abortion isn't a WAR ON WOMEN.
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Old 11-07-2012, 10:21 AM   #86
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We will win with a candidate that energizes the base, not by moving farther to the left and forsaking our values.
You really think that as you watch a moderate loose both the electoral and popular votes?

I don't think many people voted for Obama because Romney wasnt appealing to the base.
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Old 11-07-2012, 10:21 AM   #87
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We will win with a candidate that energizes the base, not by moving farther to the left and forsaking our values.
Your values are stuck in the past, have been dropped on the side of the road and walked away from by the majority of americans. You lost that fight, it's over.
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Old 11-07-2012, 10:23 AM   #88
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Saying you don't want to pay for someone's abortion isn't a WAR ON WOMEN.
No, but limiting access to other medical services and contraception sure is.
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Saying you don't want to pay for someone's abortion isn't a WAR ON WOMEN.
It is perceived as one. That's all that really matters here, isn't it?
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Old 11-07-2012, 10:23 AM   #90
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We will win with a candidate that energizes the base, not by moving farther to the left and forsaking our values.
"Our values"?

Aren't you always posting how both major party candidates are secretly trying to poison and kill all of us?

When did you join up with a party?
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