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Old 11-07-2012, 08:56 AM  
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GOP, 2012: Angry White Men and Their Women

Honestly, that is what the Republican party has become. Think about it...

Think about most of the obnoxious conservatives in this forum: Angry White Men....it says it all. They've been drinking the Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck Kool-Aid for over 20 years now. Is it really surprising, then, that the party no longer appeals to anyone else--especially with their seething contempt and venomous attacks toward anyone who dares to disagree with them?

The Democrats went though a similar thing...between 1968 and 1988, when they lost 5 out of 6 Presidential elections, because they were out-of-touch with the country (too beholden to bleeding heart liberals and minorities.) Between 1992 and 2012, the Republicans have now lost the popular vote for President in 5 of the 6 elections, for the same reason (too beholden to the Tea Party and talk radio addicts.)

Until the GOP admits they have a a big problem, and are out-of-touch, and seek to moderate their policies and rhetoric....they will remain the party of Angry White Men and the Women Who Love Them. They must find ways to appeal to larger numbers of Blacks, Asians, women, and Hispanics--otherwise they are screwed. And they will continue to struggle to win national elections.

It's simple math. Demographic shifts have become political inertia, and the GOP has to recognize that reality--instead of pretending not to notice.

In 1992, Clinton brought the Democratic party back toward the mainstream. For the GOP to turn things around in 2016, they'll need to do the same thing. Whenever political parties are sucked into lunatic fringe politics, they alienate the voters who matter--in our republic, a majority. Republicans had better soon remember the role of majority rule in our country, or they may yet become this century's version of the Whigs.
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:07 AM   #121
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It would have to pass the House...not going to happen
I wouldn’t think so either but those are the man’s words so it’s not exactly unreasonable to be suspicious either.
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:07 AM   #122
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It would have to pass the House...not going to happen
One of the advantages of "gridlock"--prevents either party from ramming extremist measures through.
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:07 AM   #123
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That would help but you Brits are protestants. It's Catholic Hispanics who practice " be fruitful and multiply."
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:11 AM   #124
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I honestly am not sure if its Angry White Men. It is more like the GOP is living in a vaccum and only listen to themselves.
For the Republicans to move forward they are going to have to come to the realization that the Future is NOW. The voter demographics have changed significantly. They need to embrace the Hispanics and make positive inroads with Women.
They really should step away from the Tea Party and quick.
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:12 AM   #125
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Change on two major grounds, that I can see:

1. Fight for conservativism instead of regressivism: instead of dismantling the social safety net, support various efforts to make it more efficient without cutting benefits.

2. Embrace pluralistic politics that see value in promoting women's issues, Hispanic issues, inner city issues, and gay issues.

As for how... well. That's for the party to figure out.

In other words, support an entitlement society with increasing cradle to grave government support????
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:14 AM   #126
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In other words, support an entitlement society with increasing cradle to grave government support????
See the way you just parsed his statements? That's why you lost the election.
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:15 AM   #127
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You'll be relieved to know...no one is coming for your guns. Seriously.

Gun-control is to the right, what abortion is to the right...it stirs the faithful, but the pols know better than to really do anything about it.
Anybody who compares these two things is a fool. Not at all surprised that you did it.

Let's see, what's more important to me:

1. Being able to defend myself, my family, my home and my stuff.

2. Butting into the lives of people I'll never meet and don't give a shit about and telling them they've gotta have that baby because apparently it's in the bible somewhere. And GOD SENDING THEM TO HELL FOREVER just isn't punishment enough, either.

****ing retards. EVERYWHERE. RETARDS. **** WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THIS COUNTRY.
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:17 AM   #128
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The Democrats went though a similar thing...between 1968 and 1988, when they lost 5 out of 6 Presidential elections, because they were out-of-touch with the country (too beholden to bleeding heart liberals and minorities.)
Pretty sure the party is still just as beholden.

The change came about because the groups finally immigrated and reproduced themselves into the majority.
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:17 AM   #129
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One of my former students posted on facebook, to a ton of likes, "If the south would've won we would've had it made."

This isn't some misanthropic social outcast kid, either. He's someone who is popular, well off, and a generally "good" kid.
A lot of midwesterners don't realize how ingrained racism is in the south. I know I didn't until I moved to Texas.
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:18 AM   #130
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I disagree. White people just need to begin breeding more.
We do. The problem is latina women are just ****ing hawt.
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:19 AM   #131
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I wouldn’t think so either but those are the man’s words so it’s not exactly unreasonable to be suspicious either.
I think most people are or would be in support of reinstating the Brady act. They could modify it to make more appeasing but then again I just don't think the right would ever go for it.
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:23 AM   #132
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It's kinda funny watching Donger, the most out of touch poster on this board, try to defend Republican Politics as if it can't change or shouldn't. If you guys don't change, this problem will only get worse.

Romney could've easily won the Latino vote simply by addressing immigration reform, a subject neither candidate spent even 5 minutes on.
I'm not really defending anything. What sort of addressing do you think the GOP could have done to win the Latino vote?
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:26 AM   #133
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I'm not really defending anything. What sort of addressing do you think the GOP could have done to win the Latino vote?
Romney and the party for that matter shouldn't have tacked so far right. Bush lost the Latino vote by 10 points mostly because he tried to honestly address immigration reform fairly.
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:27 AM   #134
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THIS kind of response will relegate the GOP to the trash-heap of failed political parties.
There's nothing wrong with the Republican party, whats wrong is all those BRAIN WASHED MASSES sucking up that LAME STREAM MEDIA telling us that gays are good and drugs are good and living in a secular country is good! Stripping away our God given rights one at a time until we're all living in a cold, faithless, sterile world where you have to ask permission to raise a family and enjoy basic human rights!
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:27 AM   #135
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Romney and the party for that matter shouldn't have tacked so far right. Bush lost the Latino vote by 10 points mostly because he tried to honestly address immigration reform fairly.
Again, please give specifics.

Full-blown amnesty for illegals? Dream Act openly supported?
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