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Old 11-07-2012, 07:56 AM  
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GOP, 2012: Angry White Men and Their Women

Honestly, that is what the Republican party has become. Think about it...

Think about most of the obnoxious conservatives in this forum: Angry White Men....it says it all. They've been drinking the Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck Kool-Aid for over 20 years now. Is it really surprising, then, that the party no longer appeals to anyone else--especially with their seething contempt and venomous attacks toward anyone who dares to disagree with them?

The Democrats went though a similar thing...between 1968 and 1988, when they lost 5 out of 6 Presidential elections, because they were out-of-touch with the country (too beholden to bleeding heart liberals and minorities.) Between 1992 and 2012, the Republicans have now lost the popular vote for President in 5 of the 6 elections, for the same reason (too beholden to the Tea Party and talk radio addicts.)

Until the GOP admits they have a a big problem, and are out-of-touch, and seek to moderate their policies and rhetoric....they will remain the party of Angry White Men and the Women Who Love Them. They must find ways to appeal to larger numbers of Blacks, Asians, women, and Hispanics--otherwise they are screwed. And they will continue to struggle to win national elections.

It's simple math. Demographic shifts have become political inertia, and the GOP has to recognize that reality--instead of pretending not to notice.

In 1992, Clinton brought the Democratic party back toward the mainstream. For the GOP to turn things around in 2016, they'll need to do the same thing. Whenever political parties are sucked into lunatic fringe politics, they alienate the voters who matter--in our republic, a majority. Republicans had better soon remember the role of majority rule in our country, or they may yet become this century's version of the Whigs.
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:30 AM   #166
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:32 AM   #167
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I'd think a history teacher might recall the brady bill, might recall that there was a recent 5-4 SCOTUS gun rights vote that swings with one dipshit judge. You might recall that the POTUS in the 2nd debate said he was indeed in favor of gun control and assault weapons bans....
None of what you are citing involves the government taking hunting guns or guns for personal protection from any law-abiding citizen. Assault weapons, aside. Try again.
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:33 AM   #168
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And I know this is only Chiefsplanet, and I share some of your sentiments... but this sort of billy badass rhetoric is also a problem of the right. I'm not picking on you here frazod (once again, I agree with many of your concerns, and I actually was going to posit that these guys who are worried more about social issues than the economy may be young and without families), but the Right is really, really bad at coming off as complete ****ing assholes who don't give a shit about other people.

Going back to Travon Martin: maybe there's no racism in a person's stance on it, but when they're saying shit like, "thuggy hood rat probably had it coming. One less baby daddy in the welfare line" (not an exact quote) then it's really easy for them to be painted as racist.
Billy badass rhetoric? Ask yourself this - do you think the average Athenian still gave a shit about the concepts of liberty and democracy when he didn't know where his next meal was coming from?
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:34 AM   #169
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Billy badass rhetoric? Ask yourself this - do you think the average Athenian still gave a shit about the concepts of liberty and democracy when he didn't know where his next meal was coming from?
Yes Fraz, the end of the world is coming. The economy is going to shit itself and we're all going to get blasted back to the Bronze age.
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:35 AM   #170
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I'd think a history teacher might recall the brady bill, might recall that there was a recent 5-4 SCOTUS gun rights vote that swings with one dipshit judge. You might recall that the POTUS in the 2nd debate said he was indeed in favor of gun control and assault weapons bans.


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Old 11-07-2012, 11:36 AM   #171
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Yes Fraz, the end of the world is coming. The economy is going to shit itself and we're all going to get blasted back to the Bronze age.
Right, it's absolutely outside the realm of possibility. Because it's never happened to a powerful, advanced civilized society before. Not once. Not ever.

Nope. Nothing to see here. Move along. Don't worry, be happy.
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:37 AM   #173
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Yeah, this sort of goes hand in hand with the country getting progressively worse and worse over the years. The flower child twats from the 60s are the ones running the country in the ground now. Can't wait to see what you clowns will do. Assuming you ever get the chance.

The funny thing is, you talk about tolerance and acceptance like they're the most important things ever (as you've been programmed to) - yet these high-minded ideals of yours only flourish in a stable society. This nation is on the road to ruin, and when we get there, I'm pretty sure the only ass your going to worry about getting ****ed is your own.
For the record. Bush and his Republican congress that passed every bill they wanted were the ones that put in the place we are today. Blame Obama all you want, but all your doing is blaming the guy that had to pick up the pieces and try to put them back together. Clinton left the country in great shape, Bush and Co. destroyed it, and Obama has been trying to put it back together. Sorry it hasn't been accomplished yet in 4 years.
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:38 AM   #174
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None of what you are citing involves the government taking hunting guns or guns for personal protection from any law-abiding citizen. Assault weapons, aside. Try again.

Who in the hell are you or Barry S. to decide what is or isn't a hunting gun.


As a history teacher, I assumed you would know that the 2nd amendment's intent has NOTHING to do with "hunting guns".



The students under your direction are being issued a disservice by their district.
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:39 AM   #175
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Yeah, this sort of goes hand in hand with the country getting progressively worse and worse over the years. The flower child twats from the 60s are the ones running the country in the ground now. Can't wait to see what you clowns will do. Assuming you ever get the chance.

The funny thing is, you talk about tolerance and acceptance like they're the most important things ever (as you've been programmed to) - yet these high-minded ideals of yours only flourish in a stable society. This nation is on the road to ruin, and when we get there, I'm pretty sure the only ass your going to worry about getting ****ed is your own.
If by ruin you mean marching toward "socialism" and a desire for greater influence of government, I'd agree with you. It really is a shame.
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Right, it's absolutely outside the realm of possibility. Because it's never happened to a powerful, advanced civilized society before. Not once. Not ever.

Nope. Nothing to see here. Move along. Don't worry, be happy.
lol. I share some of your concerns. As a 27 year old, i am plenty aware that my generation is filled with a lot of shit head losers. But i am also aware that my generation is full of some really smart people as well. The internet generation is creating a lot of really aware, smart kids with an abundance of knowledge at their finger tips. Our colleges are producing some of the best and brightest minds in the world. Our youth are more politically and culturally aware now than ever before.

We'll be just fine.
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:43 AM   #177
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Who in the hell are you or Fece S. to decide what is or isn't a hunting gun.

As a history teacher, I assumed you would know that the 2nd amendment's intent has NOTHING to do with "hunting guns".

The students under your direction are being issued a disservice by their district.
Of course it doesn't; but most guns have nothing to do with "state militias" either. The hunting aspect is a modern cultural component that would render any serious attempts to control guns as politcally impractical in our society. Of course, that doesn't stop the doomsday rhetoric of the NRA and other RWNJ groups.
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Think about most of the obnoxious conservatives in this forum: Angry White Men....it says it all.
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:45 AM   #179
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I'd think a history teacher might recall the brady bill, might recall that there was a recent 5-4 SCOTUS gun rights vote that swings with one dipshit judge. You might recall that the POTUS in the 2nd debate said he was indeed in favor of gun control and assault weapons bans.


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The SC also stated states or the government could impose reasonable laws to restrict guns.

There can be reasonable gun control laws as long as they don't allow the fringe on each side to screw it up.

Much like immigration reform

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Maybe you should spend some of your Work-day planet time re-reading the constitution.

Possibly one of the special ed teachers can facilitate your understanding of the document by removing 2 of the 4 multiple choice answers from your test.


The constitution says nothing about hunting. None of the regulations you support imposing are mentioned. Not once.



Oh........the SCOTUS CAN impose gun regulations? You mean if Obama installs a couple of liberal gun haters in the court system, it COULD affect the rights of law abiding citizens?
Who would have thought that, Dirk.



Washington DC and Obama's "Home town" of Chicago have pretty damn strict gun control laws............What do their violent crime rates and gun related murder rates look like?
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