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Taco John · 12:03 AM

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...105928920.html

When all the celebrating is done, America will wake up to the fact that Obama is facing the lamest duck presidency in the history of politics. The House is deeper entrenched, and the Republicans made gains in the Senate, though didn't flip it.

America got caught like a deer in the headlights, and voted for four more years of gridlock.

BucEyedPea · 11-07-2012, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

I was wondering how long it'd take before the right started calling Obama a lame duck.

I was going to give Fox N Friends a week.

I should have given Taco John a night.

So far what I've read Obama only has a plurality of the vote. He has no mandate. Google's numbers are better than the msm.

tiptap · 11-07-2012, 07:11 AM

The House success in keeping a majority is more reflective of the state by state redistricting of Congressional Districts. It is not so representative of across state deliberations. As such it is an area that the Republican ground game is still working. The question is what happens in two years. That is when a referendum of the House will take place without a Presidential race. Republicans are under political pressure then.

BucEyedPea · 11-07-2012, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by tiptap

The House success in keeping a majority is more reflective of the state by state redistricting of Congressional Districts. It is not so representative of across state deliberations. As such it is an area that the Republican ground game is still working. The question is what happens in two years. That is when a referendum of the House will take place without a Presidential race. Republicans are under political pressure then.

It's a result of Obama's lurch to the hard left his first term especially Obamacare.

Polls showed a desire for different and better candidates.
Polls showed people thought Mitt was better on jobs.
Polls showed the public is war weary.
Polls showed people think the govt is doing too much.
Polls showed people think the country is on the wrong track.

This was not so much a vote for someone as much as against the other. The left is reading this election wrong especially with the lack of mandate and closeness of the results. The country is still divided and did not like the choices.

tiptap · 11-07-2012, 07:18 AM

That would be the 2010 success certainly.

**dirk digler** · 11-07-2012, 07:23 AM

I can't believe Bachmann won. Damn.

BucEyedPea · 11-07-2012, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

I can't believe Bachmann won. Damn.

Americans like divided govt.

Ugly Duck · 11-07-2012, 08:26 AM

Democrats so far have knocked off 12 GOP House members — including 10 wackadoodle members of the tea party freshman class of 2010.

Republis picked up nine previously Democratic seats.

Republis gained no ground in the Senate & may end up losing some seats.

Tough to spin that as Republi gains.

SNR · 11-07-2012, 08:50 AM

Did that ****head Alan Grayson get beat?

BucEyedPea · 11-07-2012, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Ugly Duck

Democrats so far have knocked off 12 GOP House members — including 10 wackadoodle members of the tea party freshman class of 2010.

Republis picked up nine previously Democratic seats.

Republis gained no ground in the Senate & may end up losing some seats.

Tough to spin that as Republi gains.

The House will still remain Republican.

One party rule is never good.

Dave Lane · 11-07-2012, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

Right? I'm a fiscal conservative, and a civil rights leftist. That's what you call a centrist in this environment, baby...

Don't blame me for being ahead of the political curve. Calling Obama a lame duck is like saying the sun is going to rise tomorrow. I'm not sure what you think he is going to accomplish that he wasn't able to accomplish when the deck was more stacked in his favor.

No you are an anarchist that is slightly sympathetic to the persons you abandon. At least be honest.

DaveNull · 11-07-2012, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Did that ****head Alan Grayson get beat?

Nope. Sounds like the guy running against him must have been a real winner.

BucEyedPea · 11-07-2012, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane

No you are an anarchist that is slightly sympathetic to the persons you abandon. At least be honest.

No he's a mini-anarchist—not an anarchist. Get it right!

Taco John · 11-07-2012, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane

No you are an anarchist that is slightly sympathetic to the persons you abandon. At least be honest.

Who am I abandoning? As far as I know, I've got my ducklings accounted for.

jettio · 11-07-2012, 11:58 AM

Considering that the expiration of tax cuts and sequestration is looming, and that Obamacare is not getting repealed and those factors together make it very likely that tax and entitlement reform happens within a year, it is premature to call Obama a lame-duck President.

I think a lot of people realize that the GOP went all-in on thwarting progress to make Obama look bad, and Obama won re-election anyway. I think Obama and the Dems will offer them a face-saving way to start exercising their governing responsibilities and deals will get done.

BucEyedPea · 11-07-2012, 12:04 PM

Second term presidents usually are lame ducks. That and a Republican House, if they do their job, helps it more. His coattails were too short.

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11-07-2012, 07:11 AM	#17
tiptap Is this it? Join Date: Jan 2004 Casino cash: $19286	The House success in keeping a majority is more reflective of the state by state redistricting of Congressional Districts. It is not so representative of across state deliberations. As such it is an area that the Republican ground game is still working. The question is what happens in two years. That is when a referendum of the House will take place without a Presidential race. Republicans are under political pressure then. __________________ Even a superstitious man has certain inalienable rights. He has a right to harbor and indulge his imbecilities as long as he pleases. . . He has a right to argue for them as eloquently as he can, in season and out of season. He has a right to teach them to his children. But certainly he has no right to be protected against the free criticism of those who do not hold them. He has no right to demand that they be treated as sacred. He has no right to preach them without challenge." -H.L. Mencken
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11-07-2012, 07:18 AM	#19
tiptap Is this it? Join Date: Jan 2004 Casino cash: $19286	That would be the 2010 success certainly. __________________ Even a superstitious man has certain inalienable rights. He has a right to harbor and indulge his imbecilities as long as he pleases. . . He has a right to argue for them as eloquently as he can, in season and out of season. He has a right to teach them to his children. But certainly he has no right to be protected against the free criticism of those who do not hold them. He has no right to demand that they be treated as sacred. He has no right to preach them without challenge." -H.L. Mencken
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Ugly Duck Proof: ChargerFanz DO exist! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Petaluma, CA, USA Casino cash: $42502	Democrats so far have knocked off 12 GOP House members — including 10 wackadoodle members of the tea party freshman class of 2010. Republis picked up nine previously Democratic seats. Republis gained no ground in the Senate & may end up losing some seats. Tough to spin that as Republi gains.
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jettio MVP Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $20768	Considering that the expiration of tax cuts and sequestration is looming, and that Obamacare is not getting repealed and those factors together make it very likely that tax and entitlement reform happens within a year, it is premature to call Obama a lame-duck President. I think a lot of people realize that the GOP went all-in on thwarting progress to make Obama look bad, and Obama won re-election anyway. I think Obama and the Dems will offer them a face-saving way to start exercising their governing responsibilities and deals will get done. __________________ Where Ignorance is Bliss, 'Tis Folly to be Wise. __
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BucEyedPea Frazod Loves Hammy Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: None of your business Casino cash: $53345	Second term presidents usually are lame ducks. That and a Republican House, if they do their job, helps it more. His coattails were too short. __________________ "In government, the scum rises to the top."~ Hayek
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