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Old 11-06-2012, 11:50 PM  
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Entrenched - Republicans make gains in the house...

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...105928920.html


When all the celebrating is done, America will wake up to the fact that Obama is facing the lamest duck presidency in the history of politics. The House is deeper entrenched, and the Republicans made gains in the Senate, though didn't flip it.

America got caught like a deer in the headlights, and voted for four more years of gridlock.

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Old 11-07-2012, 12:26 PM   #31
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Second term presidents usually are lame ducks. That and a Republican House, if they do their job, helps it more. His coattails were too short.
Oh well if it usually happens that way then there must be little chance that something else would happen in extraordinary circumstances.

If you want to talk about lame-ducks, I think the lame duck congress might get something done because the GOP is afraid of Elizabeth Warren.

The GOP is as afraid of her as I am of you.
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Old 11-07-2012, 02:03 PM   #32
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Whoever wrote this really jumped the gun. While Republicans will hold the House, their majority has gone down as Democrats have already won 193 seats with several races uncalled they are leading in. Democrats have also picked up 2 seats in the Senate.
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Old 11-08-2012, 01:25 PM   #33
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At latest count the Democrats have 193 in the House for races called. They are ahead in six of the nine uncalled races.
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Old 11-08-2012, 04:20 PM   #34
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When all the celebrating is done, America will wake up to the fact that Obama is facing the lamest duck presidency in the history of politics. The House is deeper entrenched, and the Republicans made gains in the Senate, though didn't flip it.

America got caught like a deer in the headlights, and voted for four more years of gridlock.
I disagree...the house, since 2010, has been irrelevant and frankly has been Obama's foil for the reason why the economy has been so bad since 2009. Both houses are pretty much irrelevant at this point. There hasnt been any serious legislation since Obamacare to come out of the houses. The President has pretty much done everything by executive order the last 2 years.

Expect more of the same. The voters wanted it. They get it.
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Old 11-08-2012, 05:12 PM   #35
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House Seats are still capable of being moved with a big influx of money. They are also helped by smart Mapping of Congressional Districts. That is still where Republicans have a better game in winning. That is why Norquist is all about the House.
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Old 11-08-2012, 05:15 PM   #36
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Looks like the GOP will lose about 7 or 8 seats. They would have lost the house (more votes for dems than for republicans in house races) except for the 2010 wave right before redistricting. 2020 is ominously a presidential election year.
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Old 11-08-2012, 05:15 PM   #37
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I disagree...the house, since 2010, has been irrelevant and frankly has been Obama's foil for the reason why the economy has been so bad since 2009. Both houses are pretty much irrelevant at this point. There hasnt been any serious legislation since Obamacare to come out of the houses. The President has pretty much done everything by executive order the last 2 years.

Expect more of the same. The voters wanted it. They get it.
Everything by EO? Can you document that? I know he's abused that but so did his predecessors.

That no serious legislation hasn't come out of Congress is not really a bad thing. That makes the House relevant. The worst of the left's legislation was Obama's first two years.
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Old 11-08-2012, 05:16 PM   #38
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Looks like the GOP will lose about 7 or 8 seats.
When? This election?
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Old 11-08-2012, 05:20 PM   #39
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At latest count the Democrats have 193 in the House for races called. They are ahead in six of the nine uncalled races.
I didn't know there were that many uncalled races. That is besides West calling for a recount in WPB FL.

Per this the balance of power remains unchanged.
http://blogs.voanews.com/breaking-ne...us-congress-2/
With nearly all the House races called, projections indicate little will change in the 435-seat chamber. Republicans have 233 seats, while Democrats so far have won 192. Boehner will retain his post.
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Old 11-08-2012, 06:50 PM   #40
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When? This election?
yeah, this election.
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I didn't know there were that many uncalled races. That is besides West calling for a recount in WPB FL.

Per this the balance of power remains unchanged.
http://blogs.voanews.com/breaking-ne...us-congress-2/
With nearly all the House races called, projections indicate little will change in the 435-seat chamber. Republicans have 233 seats, while Democrats so far have won 192. Boehner will retain his post.
233 + 192 = 425

You're short 10 seats.
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Here's some recently updated info.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories...607.html?hp=r2

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As of Thursday afternoon, The Associated Press had called 194 seats for Democrats, and had them leading in another six races that remain uncalled. The AP had called 234 seats for Republicans, and had them leading in one uncalled contest.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories...#ixzz2Bgpp9kCr
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Old 11-08-2012, 08:29 PM   #43
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Oh well if it usually happens that way then there must be little chance that something else would happen in extraordinary circumstances.

If you want to talk about lame-ducks, I think the lame duck congress might get something done because the GOP is afraid of Elizabeth Warren.

The GOP is as afraid of her as I am of you.
Of course, no one likes a commie except for Massholes.
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Old 11-08-2012, 08:31 PM   #44
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Looks to me like they still wind up ahead even with some seats lost.
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Looks to me like they still wind up ahead even with some seats lost.
The GOP had 242
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