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Old 11-07-2012, 07:56 AM  
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GOP, 2012: Angry White Men and Their Women

Honestly, that is what the Republican party has become. Think about it...

Think about most of the obnoxious conservatives in this forum: Angry White Men....it says it all. They've been drinking the Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck Kool-Aid for over 20 years now. Is it really surprising, then, that the party no longer appeals to anyone else--especially with their seething contempt and venomous attacks toward anyone who dares to disagree with them?

The Democrats went though a similar thing...between 1968 and 1988, when they lost 5 out of 6 Presidential elections, because they were out-of-touch with the country (too beholden to bleeding heart liberals and minorities.) Between 1992 and 2012, the Republicans have now lost the popular vote for President in 5 of the 6 elections, for the same reason (too beholden to the Tea Party and talk radio addicts.)

Until the GOP admits they have a a big problem, and are out-of-touch, and seek to moderate their policies and rhetoric....they will remain the party of Angry White Men and the Women Who Love Them. They must find ways to appeal to larger numbers of Blacks, Asians, women, and Hispanics--otherwise they are screwed. And they will continue to struggle to win national elections.

It's simple math. Demographic shifts have become political inertia, and the GOP has to recognize that reality--instead of pretending not to notice.

In 1992, Clinton brought the Democratic party back toward the mainstream. For the GOP to turn things around in 2016, they'll need to do the same thing. Whenever political parties are sucked into lunatic fringe politics, they alienate the voters who matter--in our republic, a majority. Republicans had better soon remember the role of majority rule in our country, or they may yet become this century's version of the Whigs.
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Old 11-07-2012, 01:00 PM   #226
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That's the kind of rhetoric that makes it all too easy for the Right to be painted as racist morons. It does a great job of rallying the true believers and firing them up... not such a good job of building an inclusive, winning coalition.
Yeah. Ted is under the mistaken assumption that most people are reasonable, productive members of society. The scare tactics and chicken little crap does very little in the big picture.
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Old 11-07-2012, 01:01 PM   #227
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But it's ok for the left to call Stacy Dash every name in the book cause she wanted Mitt? ****ing Left is a joke.

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Old 11-07-2012, 01:02 PM   #228
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But it's ok for the left to call Stacy Dash every name in the book cause she wanted Mitt? ****ing Left is a joke.
You can't be a hater if you're a leftist!
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Old 11-07-2012, 01:02 PM   #229
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But it's ok for the left to call Stacy Dash every name in the book cause she wanted Mitt? ****ing Left is a joke.
No, that's equally stupid.
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Old 11-07-2012, 01:02 PM   #230
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That's the kind of rhetoric that makes it all too easy for the Right to be painted as racist morons. It does a great job of rallying the true believers and firing them up... not such a good job of building an inclusive, winning coalition.
I don't see any race mentioned there.
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Old 11-07-2012, 01:04 PM   #231
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But it's ok for the left to call Stacy Dash every name in the book cause she wanted Mitt? ****ing Left is a joke.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_1954021.html
That isn't right. Of course I never heard about it until just now
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Old 11-07-2012, 01:11 PM   #232
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Old 11-07-2012, 01:15 PM   #233
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I don't see any race mentioned there.
It doesn't have to be mentioned. That's the beauty of it. It's assumed.

Hey, it ain't fair, but that's the way it goes. Sucks for the Right.
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Old 11-07-2012, 01:16 PM   #234
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You realize you could go on twitter and find plenty of ugly things said about Mitt Romney and Republicans, right?
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Old 11-07-2012, 01:17 PM   #235
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It doesn't have to be mentioned. That's the beauty of it. It's assumed.

Hey, it ain't fair, but that's the way it goes. Sucks for the Right.
I would argue that it sucks for the person doing the assuming, and it's a shame to see you so flippantly do so.
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Old 11-07-2012, 01:19 PM   #236
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Not in Missouri, it wasn't. I voted for GJ too as a calculated risk knowing full well that Missouri wouldn't go to Obama.
Exactly.

I knew Mitt would pull MO; I went with GJ to try and get that fabled 5%.

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Old 11-07-2012, 01:19 PM   #237
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It doesn't have to be mentioned. That's the beauty of it. It's assumed.

Hey, it ain't fair, but that's the way it goes. Sucks for the Right.
There's plenty of racist comments to be found by right wingers on twitter, but that particular comment seems more driven at liberals as a whole. It really doesn't seem racial.
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Old 11-07-2012, 01:20 PM   #238
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Rush brought up some good points today.....

We are now a majority nation of children where Santa Claus wins over hard work.

He says the GOP has tried to reach out to minorities and it still fails...




We had Suzanne Martinez, female Hispanic governor, New Mexico. We had Condoleezza Rice, African-American, former secretary of state. Both of those people imminently qualified, terrifically achieved. They have reached the pinnacles of their profession.


We had Marco Rubio. We had a parade of minorities who have become successful Americans. And they all had a common story: up from nothing, hard work, their parents sacrificed for them. Now, why didn't that work, folks?



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Old 11-07-2012, 01:20 PM   #239
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It's strange though. In my circle, it seems like I'm more a 25%er. I have a ton of fb friends too so it's not like I isolate myself to just very close, like-minded people. I was expecting a better showing from GJ.
Gary was a bad candidate. I don't know if you saw my posts the last couple of days but in the interviews I heard on the radio, he sounded like a career politician. Refused to answer questions honestly and when pressed, got mad and hung up.
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There's plenty of racist comments to be found by right wingers on twitter, but that particular comment seems more driven at liberals as a whole. It really doesn't seem racial.
Okay. Fair enough. I should have just pointed to the vitriolic rhetoric in general. Now, I know that the Left does the same thing, but the Right, at some point, is going to have to realize that the Rush Limbaugh/Michael Savage/Ted Nugent crowd is awesome for the echo chamber but horrible for reaching outside to build coalitions.
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