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Old 11-07-2012, 11:14 PM  
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How will Obama make the country worse in 4 years?

Just wondering since everyone seems to think the world is ending now that he is Prez again.
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Old 11-08-2012, 05:00 AM   #16
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He won't, and neither would have Romney. The only difference will be the people saying how responsible the President is for the good or bad would have flip flopped.
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Old 11-08-2012, 05:02 AM   #17
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Assault weapons ban. Possibly more thru UN agreements.
Global Internet taxation through the UN.
Global taxation on wealthy through the UN.
Global Warming Taxation through the UN.

Higher cost of medical. I'm already seeing it phased in at work.
Quality of healthcare will go down the shitter.
Massive increase on taxes across the board due to bush tax cuts expiring and higher cost for supporting the entitled lazy people among other things including the obamacare tax.
Decrease in military.
Double dip in the recession is starting post election.
More jobs will move out of the US or close down due to excessive taxation.

But 30+ yo professional students will get free condoms damnit. Illegals will get free healthcare and amnesty damnit. And you can live off the government and not get a job and do about as well as someone that busts his ass 50 hours a week to support his family damnit.

This country should be embarrassed. I have no clue on why any working man or woman would vote for Obama. I have no clue on why anyone with children would vote for him.

The republicans will never win another election due to their beliefs on what made this country great. Their beliefs on building through hard work. Their beliefs on securing our boarders. The majority of the country feels entitled to free things and people won't ever give that up.
  • Because those people aren't mad and paranoid
  • because they have a sense of compassion for the less advantaged
  • because they're capable of looking beyond American borders and seeing that countries with entrenched policies and programs that are far more "socialist" than anything Obama has proposed are able to prosper
  • Because they don't want to be held hostage on social issues by crazy religious types
  • Becuase Romney's fiscal plan was never demonstrated to be anything more than "tax cuts will water the magic bean economy"
  • In summary - because they're educated.
As for the country being embarrassed, in what forum, exactly?

International sentiment indicates re-electing Obama saved you embarrassment, it did not cause it.

http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/11/05/...-except-china/
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Old 11-08-2012, 06:07 AM   #18
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  • Because those people aren't mad and paranoid
  • because they have a sense of compassion for the less advantaged
  • because they're capable of looking beyond American borders and seeing that countries with entrenched policies and programs that are far more "socialist" than anything Obama has proposed are able to prosper
  • Because they don't want to be held hostage on social issues by crazy religious types
  • Becuase Romney's fiscal plan was never demonstrated to be anything more than "tax cuts will water the magic bean economy"
  • In summary - because they're educated.
As for the country being embarrassed, in what forum, exactly?

International sentiment indicates re-electing Obama saved you embarrassment, it did not cause it.

http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/11/05/...-except-china/
Perhaps the rest of the world just wants a President who represents a weaker America. China, on the other hand, may just be tired of lending us money all the time to pay for things like cellphones with free texting for those on the government dole.
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Old 11-08-2012, 06:32 AM   #19
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20+ Trillion in national debt. Trillion dollar deficits.
That's my biggest fear.
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Old 11-08-2012, 06:39 AM   #20
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Old 11-08-2012, 06:48 AM   #21
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Old 11-08-2012, 06:49 AM   #22
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Oh, and 200 grand IS middle class in most parts of the coast.
Where?

What pct of the income scale do you think is the middle?
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Old 11-08-2012, 06:51 AM   #23
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Old 11-08-2012, 06:53 AM   #24
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  • Because those people aren't mad and paranoid
  • because they have a sense of compassion for the less advantaged
  • because they're capable of looking beyond American borders and seeing that countries with entrenched policies and programs that are far more "socialist" than anything Obama has proposed are able to prosper
  • Because they don't want to be held hostage on social issues by crazy religious types
  • Becuase Romney's fiscal plan was never demonstrated to be anything more than "tax cuts will water the magic bean economy"
  • In summary - because they're educated.
As for the country being embarrassed, in what forum, exactly?

International sentiment indicates re-electing Obama saved you embarrassment, it did not cause it.

http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/11/05/...-except-china/
crazy religious types enduring persecution by the socialist who want their agendas front and center at the expense of everyone and everything else.
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Old 11-08-2012, 06:58 AM   #25
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IMO opinion, there are two possible outcomes if Obama's agenda floats through - 1) Germany or Sweden, which is pretty damn good by any measure, 2) Greece or Spain, which is pretty damn bad by any measure. Those who voted for Obama are betting on 1.
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Old 11-08-2012, 07:00 AM   #26
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I think our country will be worse for many reasons, and it would've been worse with Romney too.

The big one is just the constant pressure on US incomes to reach equilibrium with the Chinese/Indian/Indonesians. They still have too many people willing to do our jobs for pittances and our incomes have a long way to go down.

Reaching equilibrium will continue to be very painful for most Americans, especially the middle class.

Until we have leaders willing to confront these problems openly and aggressively, we are in a downward spiral.
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Old 11-08-2012, 07:04 AM   #27
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Old 11-08-2012, 07:10 AM   #28
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I know that as a community banker if you are a self employed person with an 800+ credit score and have 20% or more as down payment you have far less chance getting a loan than a person with a W2 from McDonalds with a 640 credit score whom filed bankruptcy 3 years ago putting 3.5% down and are allowed a 5% higher debt to income ratio.
If you have a public pension you will not have a problem getting a loan but if you have an IRA you are completely jacked.
Small / private business is the enemy of this administration and every small business person I deal with feels it.
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Old 11-08-2012, 07:12 AM   #29
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I know that as a community banker if you are a self employed person with an 800+ credit score and have 20% or more as down payment you have far less chance getting a loan than a person with a W2 from McDonalds with a 640 credit score whom filed bankruptcy 3 years ago putting 3.5% down and are allowed a 5% higher debt to income ratio.
If you have a public pension you will not have a problem getting a loan but if you have an IRA you are completely jacked.
Small / private business is the enemy of this administration and every small business person I deal with feels it.
why, they didn't build that
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Old 11-08-2012, 07:28 AM   #30
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I think our country will be worse for many reasons, and it would've been worse with Romney too.

The big one is just the constant pressure on US incomes to reach equilibrium with the Chinese/Indian/Indonesians. They still have too many people willing to do our jobs for pittances and our incomes have a long way to go down.

Reaching equilibrium will continue to be very painful for most Americans, especially the middle class.

Until we have leaders willing to confront these problems openly and aggressively, we are in a downward spiral.
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