Football The SEC... REALLY? - Page 6

**Stewie** · 11-10-2012, 04:15 PM

This conference is head and shoulders above all others?

**Bearcat** · 11-10-2012, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

You're all getting trolled here. Although we have threads like this every year, it seems. A bit of an inferiority complex, perhaps. The SEC is still clearly the best conference.

Here? On ChiefsPlanet?

Lzen · 11-10-2012, 06:01 PM

I guess I should have just said billay is obviously still butthurt by Texas.

Thinking of the fact that Kevin Sumlin took over aTm I would conced that one could make the argument that they aren't really the same team that left the Big 12 after last season.

Bo's Pelini · 11-10-2012, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

Tell me, oh wise one, what part of my argument do you disagree?

The part about A&M being a Big 12 team. They got a brand new coaching staff dude and yes the SEC is head and shoulders above the Big 12 just like the SEC is head and shoulders above every other conference. The big reason being the talent in that region.

Bo's Pelini · 11-10-2012, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

I guess I should have just said billay is obviously still butthurt by Texas.

Thinking of the fact that Kevin Sumlin took over aTm I would conced that one could make the argument that they aren't really the same team that left the Big 12 after last season.

Butthurt by Texas? My team has a good shot at making the Rose Bowl yours hasn't won a conference road game since the Bush Administration.

Good luck in the future.

Mr_Tomahawk · 11-10-2012, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

The part about A&M being a Big 12 team. They got a brand new coaching staff dude and yes the SEC is head and shoulders above the Big 12 just like the SEC is head and shoulders above every other conference. The big reason being the talent in that region.

We will see how the SEC does in the NC game...

notorious · 11-10-2012, 06:04 PM

Meh, it comes and goes in cycles.

LoneWolf · 11-10-2012, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Yeah, the SEC only has five teams in the top 10 this year and six in the top 15. It's a down year.

They get looked on favorably in the polls at the beginning of the season because they are from the SEC. They then schedule nobody (I'll concede Michigan, barely) out of conference. That way when they lose to each other, they say "see, we only lost to another SEC powerhouse".

Don't misunderstand me. I'm not saying that the SEC sucks like some moronic posters on here. All I'm saying is that they aren't as dominant as they have been in previous seasons. Their rankings in the polls are enhanced by the past success of the conference.

notorious · 11-10-2012, 06:07 PM

It wouldn't hurt the SEC to play a BCS game away from the south, but we know that will never happen.

tk13 · 11-10-2012, 06:07 PM

The problem is with the Big XII defenses. Most of the teams in the Big XII are horrible, absolutely horrible at defense. West Virginia has allowed an AVERAGE of 51 pts/game over their last 6 games. Baylor, Texas, Texas Tech... they've all looked terrible on defense. Oklahoma State has had some okay efforts but they also got slaughtered and gave up about 60 points to Arizona in their one decent out of conference game.

If I had a say I'd want to see how some of the Pac 12 teams would look against the SEC. I feel like the middle chunk of the Big XII would be annihilated by good teams in other conferences. K-State is an elite team that is well coached, but aside from that, I don't see what the fuss is about.

Lzen · 11-10-2012, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

The part about A&M being a Big 12 team. They got a brand new coaching staff dude and yes the SEC is head and shoulders above the Big 12 just like the SEC is head and shoulders above every other conference. The big reason being the talent in that region.

So basically your whole argument is just your silly opinion.

KC_Connection · 11-10-2012, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

Yep. Except that aTm is basically a Big 12 team. They surely haven't turned into an SEC team over night. Somebody earlier in this thread mentioned the recruiting boost they got for moving to the SEC. Whether that's true or not, I doubt any of those recruits is making much of an impact this year. Just sayin'.

I would say that Texas A&M turned into a SEC team when they joined the conference and starting playing an SEC schedule. Their good play strengthens the SEC conference now (just as MU's poor play, for now, hurts it). I've kind of stopped viewing these programs as a reflection of the B12 (and I don't think there's really much of a narrative to take from the combination of A&M's success and MU's struggles).

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And I'm not talking trash. I'm just providing some logic in all this SEC hyperbole. MU fans, especially, have pushed this silliness. Again, yes the SEC is the best conference. They are not, however, head and shoulders above the Big 12, IMO. The Big 12 is actually pretty close.

The Big 12 is very good. 2nd best in the nation, I would grant. But the football that's played there on the whole is really nothing compared to the elite level of football played in the SEC. That's not hyperbole. It's just factual (shown in the national championships, the bowls, the cross-conference records) and very obvious (the athletes are just so, so much better).

Bowser · 11-10-2012, 06:10 PM

People. Stewie is just drunk and pissed off that his team couldn't win in overtime on the road, but Missouri could. It's as simple as that.

Bo's Pelini · 11-10-2012, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

So basically your whole argument is just your silly opinion.

A whole new coaching staff with the HC from Houston is a silly argument? Stay in the KU basketball thread it's obvious this college football stuff is above you.

tk13 · 11-10-2012, 06:12 PM

I'd put the Pac 12 up against the Big XII. Although having Colorado in their conference is a huge black mark against the Pac 12.

KC_Connection · 11-10-2012, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

They get looked on favorably in the polls at the beginning of the season because they are from the SEC. They then schedule nobody (I'll concede Michigan, barely) out of conference. That way when they lose to each other, they say "see, we only lost to another SEC powerhouse".

Don't misunderstand me. I'm not saying that the SEC sucks like some moronic posters on here. All I'm saying is that they aren't as dominant as they have been in previous seasons. Their rankings in the polls are enhanced by the past success of the conference.

It's not just pollsters, though. Sagarin has six SEC teams in the top 11 of his NCAAFB statistical rankings (2 B12, 2 P12, 1 ND). They're damn good.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt12.htm

There appear to be a few more bad teams in the SEC than usual, but at the top, their football teams are as good as anybody.

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11-10-2012, 06:07 PM	#84
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $101148	The problem is with the Big XII defenses. Most of the teams in the Big XII are horrible, absolutely horrible at defense. West Virginia has allowed an AVERAGE of 51 pts/game over their last 6 games. Baylor, Texas, Texas Tech... they've all looked terrible on defense. Oklahoma State has had some okay efforts but they also got slaughtered and gave up about 60 points to Arizona in their one decent out of conference game. If I had a say I'd want to see how some of the Pac 12 teams would look against the SEC. I feel like the middle chunk of the Big XII would be annihilated by good teams in other conferences. K-State is an elite team that is well coached, but aside from that, I don't see what the fuss is about.
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tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $101148	I'd put the Pac 12 up against the Big XII. Although having Colorado in their conference is a huge black mark against the Pac 12.
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