U.S. Issues Obama Green Lights UN Gun Grab Hours after Election - Page 2

BucEyedPea · 11-10-2012, 02:50 PM

Reuters

Just hours after he was reelected U.N. arms treaty is backed. Looks like he really is going to govern like Allende still.

"U.N. delegates and gun control activists have complained that talks collapsed in July largely because Obama feared attacks from Republican rival Mitt Romney if his administration was seen as supporting the pact, a charge Washington denies."

"But the U.N. General Assembly's disarmament committee moved quickly after Obama's win to approve a resolution calling for a new round of talks March 18-28. It passed with 157 votes in favor, none against and 18 abstentions."

"Britain, France and Germany joined China and the United States in support of the resolution."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...21107?irpc=932

La literatura · 11-10-2012, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mikey23545

Thank heavens Romney didn't win because he was going to rip up Roe v Wade, end Medicare, and put blacks back into chains.

Just like every other Republican president has done, of course.

Okay, so mikey is on record saying that the "Obama taking our guns!" is hyperbolic bullshit. Thanks for your contribution.

La literatura · 11-10-2012, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by LiveSteam

Own any guns?

My family owns guns, and none of them were purchased in black market illegal international swaps. Did you regularly purchase your guns on the black market from a Russian dealer named Vladimir? If so, I can see why this might be a problem for you.

Bowser · 11-10-2012, 06:21 PM

This sucks. I really liked watching FPS Russia's videos.

Ugly Duck · 11-10-2012, 06:41 PM

What does FactCheck.org have to say about it? Oh, here it is....

Q: Does the Obama administration intend to “force gun control and a complete ban on all weapons for U.S. citizens” through a United Nations treaty?

A: No. The administration plans to negotiate a treaty to regulate the international export and import of weapons.
It says that it won’t support any treaty that regulates the domestic transfer or ownership of weapons, or that infringes on the Second Amendment.

HonestChieffan · 11-10-2012, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

No, I don't own a gun. No interest in hunting either. But, I'm a staunch advocate of gun rights. Until you change the constitution, the constitution is clear.

This "Obama is coming for your guns" is just pure unadulterated bullshit. He's been in office for 4 years. He had a super majority in the senate and control of the house for two years, If he was just waiting for the right time to take away your guns, wasn't that the perfect time. This is a Fox News/NRA scare tactic. It's never going to happen.

Sure. Trust politicians.

Lzen · 11-10-2012, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

No, I don't own a gun. No interest in hunting either. But, I'm a staunch advocate of gun rights. Until you change the constitution, the constitution is clear.

This "Obama is coming for your guns" is just pure unadulterated bullshit. He's been in office for 4 years. He had a super majority in the senate and control of the house for two years, If he was just waiting for the right time to take away your guns, wasn't that the perfect time. This is a Fox News/NRA scare tactic. It's never going to happen.

I'm sure they said that about DC and Chicago, too. Dems tried to take away the guns in those places. It is logical to assume that Obama would want to do the same since he is a left wing ideologue.

Messier · 11-10-2012, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

I'm sure they said that about DC and Chicago, too. Dems tried to take away the guns in those places. It is logical to assume that Obama would want to do the same since he is a left wing ideologue.

Oh, I see the problem people are having. They think Obama is left wing.

KCTitus · 11-10-2012, 07:12 PM

Meh...this doesnt have anything to do with private ownership of guns. That's insane.

Oh and if we still have the internet when Homeland Security is going around rounding up guns from private citizens, someone please bump this and rub it in my face, please?

On a related note, bought my first AR-15 yesterday and 1000 rounds of ammunition. It was a good day.

LiveSteam · 11-10-2012, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Literature

My family owns guns, and none of them were purchased in black market illegal international swaps. Did you regularly purchase your guns on the black market from a Russian dealer named Vladimir? If so, I can see why this might be a problem for you.

I own & have owned many many guns made from all around the world. From Mouser & Browning to Tula & Chicom. & I really dnt give a **** one way or the other. The GOV is not coming to take what I have & never will.
I just dnt wanna see more regulations on buying foreign made & imported rifles & hand guns. Which I think this will do at some point.

LiveSteam · 11-10-2012, 07:24 PM

If the GOV ever decided it wanted to really bring down the hammer on gun control it will be done through ammo sales & tax

BucEyedPea · 11-10-2012, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ugly Duck

What does FactCheck.org have to say about it? Oh, here it is....

Q: Does the Obama administration intend to “force gun control and a complete ban on all weapons for U.S. citizens” through a United Nations treaty?

A: No. The administration plans to negotiate a treaty to regulate the international export and import of weapons.
It says that it won’t support any treaty that regulates the domestic transfer or ownership of weapons, or that infringes on the Second Amendment.

If you believe that I have a bridge to sell ya'. It's not like I didn't know what the administration said already. It's the language of the document that allows them to get away with saying that to fool the public. Factcheck has not really done its homework.

BucEyedPea · 11-10-2012, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by KCTitus

Meh...this doesnt have anything to do with private ownership of guns. That's insane.

Oh and if we still have the internet when Homeland Security is going around rounding up guns from private citizens, someone please bump this and rub it in my face, please?

On a related note, bought my first AR-15 yesterday and 1000 rounds of ammunition. It was a good day.

Gun purchases are up since the election. But you haven't read the document to see the lack of definitions and how things can change with how it's written.

VAChief · 11-10-2012, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

Gun purchases are up since the election. But you haven't read the document to see the lack of definitions and how things can change with how it's written.

Didn't they go up after the election in 2008? Seems like those that could profit from the hyperbole will rake it in again. Ironic.

BucEyedPea · 11-10-2012, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by VAChief

Didn't they go up after the election in 2008? Seems like those that could profit from the hyperbole will rake it in again. Ironic.

Okay, so now why is this not a gun grab once you parse the language in the document?

**J Diddy** · 11-10-2012, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

Okay, so now why is this not a gun grab once you parse the language in the document?

Because....

Nevermind, too easy.

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