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America voted the House GOP out. Gerrymandering kept them in.
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Between the two parties, voters voted for the Democratic House candidates nationally, 48.8% to 48.5%. That would translate to Democrats having 214 DNP seats to 212 GOP. The end results as of now (votes are still being counted in 6 races): 233 GOP to 194 DNP. That's 53.5% GOP to 44.6% DNP. A 9-point, 21-seat swing. Want to know why John Boehner was so quick to extend the olive branch? That's why. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...got-a-mandate/ House Democrats got more votes than House Republicans. Yet Boehner says he’s got a mandate? Posted by Ezra Klein November 9, 2012 at 10:15 am The political-science evidence is clear on this: There’s no such thing as an election mandate. There’s only what a president is able to get done with the Congress the American people gave him. But few politicians agree. And so the days and weeks after elections are heavy with arguments about who has a mandate, and for what. The latest debate is about whether President Obama, who ran a campaign explicitly promising to raise taxes on high earners and who beat a candidate explicitly promising to refuse any and all tax increases, has a mandate to raise taxes. Speaker John Boehner says he doesn’t. “Listen, our majority is going to get reelected,” he said the day before the election. “We’ll have as much of a mandate as he [President Obama] will … to not raise taxes.” Boehner’s logic is, on its face, sound. House Republicans have been as clear in their opposition to new taxes on the rich as Obama has been in his support for them. And House Republicans were reelected. They have as much right to claim a popular mandate as the president does. Or they would if they’d actually won more votes. But they didn’t. House Republicans did the equivalent of winning the electoral college while losing the popular vote. It can be a bit difficult to tally up the popular vote in House elections because you have to go ballot by ballot, and many incumbents run unopposed. But The Washington Post’s Dan Keating did the work and found that Democrats got 54,301,095 votes while Republicans got 53,822,442. That’s a close election — 48.8%-48.5% –but it’s still a popular vote win for the Democrats. Those precise numbers might change a bit as the count finalizes, but the tally isn’t likely to flip. ![]() What saved Boehner’s majority wasn’t the will of the people but the power of redistricting. As my colleague Dylan Matthews showed, Republicans used their control over the redistricting process to great effect, packing Democrats into tighter and tighter districts and managing to restructure races so even a slight loss for Republicans in the popular vote still meant a healthy majority in the House. That’s a neat trick, but it’s not a popular mandate, or anything near to it — and Boehner knows it. That’s why his first move after the election was to announce, in a vague-but-important statement, that he was open to some kind of compromise on taxes. Last edited by Direckshun; 11-10-2012 at 08:18 PM.. |
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Summary Presidential electors are selected on a state-by-state basis, as determined by the laws of each state. Generally (with Maine and Nebraska being the exceptions), each state appoints its electors on a winner-take-all basis, based on the statewide popular vote on Election Day. Although ballots list the names of the presidential candidates, voters within the 50 states and Washington, D.C. actually choose electors for their state when they vote for President and Vice President. These presidential electors in turn cast electoral votes for those two offices. Even though the aggregate national popular vote is calculated by state officials and media organizations, the national popular vote is not the basis for electing a President or Vice President. |
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Direckshun, the election's ****ing over. You have yet to talk about ANY of the QBs coming out in the 2013 draft. I've got a thread all nice and set up just for you in the lounge.
Get the **** out of here and start talking about the draft, damn it. I want your opinion and I want it now. |
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That's why people voted the Republicans in in 2010. To gerrymander. |
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That's not gerrymandering.
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You're saying that gerrymandering shouldn't matter because the DNP retained the Presidency? |
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The current partisan makeup in the House is undemocratic. |
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Simply put, the GOP is the NBA of gerrymandering. The most recent Democratic gerrymandering was not this pervasive or radical. To bilk the American people out of 21 seats... It's criminal. I embrace a ban on gerrymandering, as we all should. Fat chance, of course, because both parties support it. |
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Sure but I’ll need to bring a ball gag, restraints and penis extension for Direcshun to wear.
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