Elections Mitt's winning Ohio - Page 10

Comrade Crapski · 10-21-2012, 10:13 PM

Face the music, moonbats. America is sending the communist racebaiter back under his rock in Chicago.

Two new Ohio polls came out yesterday after my Ohio post, from from Gravis Marketing and PPP, both of which point to a razor-thin race in the most coveted swing state. A closer look at each poll shows just how much Romney has gained since the debates, and why he would be absolutely thrilled if these polls were accurate on Election Day.

The poll from Gravis Marketing shows Obama and Romney tied at 47 percent. But that’s as good as it gets for Obama. Among the most interesting tidbits from the poll:

Romney leads Obama by 19 percent among independents, 52–33, and holds 92 percent of his base compared to Obama’s 87 percent. Obama is underwater in job approval, 44–50, and independents disapprove of him overwhelmingly, 31–58. And the poll has a Democratic advantage of 9 percent, which is a 4 percent jump from 2008 — no one believes that Democrats can match their 2008 turnout advantage, let alone almost double it.

PPP (a Democratic firm) released their new poll yesterday showing Obama only up one point, 49 to 48. Just a week ago PPP had the race at 51–46 for Obama. But the four-point gain for Romney is even more impressive when you look at the poll’s findings:

This week’s poll has a Democrat sample advantage of 8 percent; last week’s advantage was 4. Romney gained four points on Obama in a week despite the sample’s having four percentage points more Democrats. Romney leads with independents by 7 percent, up from a 5 percent last week. Obama’s approval is underwater at 48–50, and independents disapprove of him by a 41–54 margin. Last week Obama was in positive approval ground at 50–48, and independents disapproved by a much smaller 45–50 margin. Romney’s favorability has gone from a minus-6 margin last week (45–51) to a plus-2 this week (49–47). Trust on the economy went from Obama plus-5 last week (51–46) to plus-4 in Romney’s direction this week (51–47). Independents jumped from Romney plus-5 last week to Romney plus-15 this week.

These two polls highlight what many saw in the second debate: Romney may have lost the overall debate, but he won handily on the issues of the economy, debt, and taxes. While Democrats were riding high this week after Obama narrowly won the face-off, Romney was quietly solidifying support from voters by commanding the issues that matter most. Based on these two polls, the only way Obama can win Ohio is if he finds a way to greatly surpass 2008 turnout with Democrats, which at the moment seems like an impossible task. If these polls hold, it won’t be long before the state Romney was declared dead in knocks down the last pillar of inevitability that Obama has left.

— Josh Jordan is a small-business market-research consultant. You can follow him on Twitter @Numbersmuncher.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner...ar-josh-jordan

HolyHandgernade · 11-11-2012, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

They think they're gonna get free goodies. Meanwhile, a wave of layoffs has happened since the election.

Yes, that's what "we" think. That's what we "thought" too when Bush put two wars on the credit card and developed a spending habit harder than the average American's obsession for Thin Mints.

**patteeu** · 11-11-2012, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade

Yes, that's what "we" think. That's what we "thought" too when Bush put two wars on the credit card and developed a spending habit harder than the average American's obsession for Thin Mints.

It couldn't have been too hard since an amateur took over and broke the record.

BucEyedPea · 11-11-2012, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade

Yes, that's what "we" think. That's what we "thought" too when Bush put two wars on the credit card and developed a spending habit harder than the average American's obsession for Thin Mints.

Well, you're now preaching to the choir. I criticized Bush for that all over this board. He was a liberal afterall. Plus the Rs backed him.
Now how can you call him out for it when Obama has been much worse?
At least I criticized Bush for it. You can't criticize Obama for it. Because of course, you agree with that spending so long as it's spent on what you want like Obamacare, even if it has $17 trillion in unfunded liabilities and he bombed Libya, is in Syria and now Mali.
As I said many times before, it's never the money, it's what people want to spend it on. Bush and Obama share a lot of things. Yet you think there's a big difference.

bsp4444 · 11-11-2012, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

They think they're gonna get free goodies. Meanwhile, a wave of layoffs has happened since the election.

This "free goodies" line is tired. Please prove it.

**J Diddy** · 11-11-2012, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by go bowe

no, there was widespread in person voter fraud...

and intimidation at the polls by the black panthers and greenpeace.,..

they stole the damned election...

**J Diddy** · 11-11-2012, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by bsp4444

This "free goodies" line is tired. Please prove it.

There is no proving it. It is a talking point for the people who have to feel superior over those that have not.

BucEyedPea · 11-11-2012, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bsp4444

This "free goodies" line is tired. Please prove it.

Really, you need proof? You must be new to the political forum.

Obamacare, welfare like EBT cards, tax the rich for govt expenses while some pay nothing. A lot falls under the latter.

**patteeu** · 11-11-2012, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bsp4444

This "free goodies" line is tired. Please prove it.

You're right. It's unfair to say that all of Obama's supporters are takers looking for goodies. Some of them are just filled with hate of rich people, intolerance for traditional Christians (and/or Mormons) or racial resentment. Good catch.

whoman69 · 11-11-2012, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

You're right. It's unfair to say that all of Obama's supporters are takers looking for goodies. Some of them are just filled with hate of rich people, intolerance for traditional Christians (and/or Mormons) or racial resentment. Good catch.

I really don't think you want to get in a battle of who is more intolerant.

go bowe · 11-12-2012, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy

i'm telling you romney can't lose this thing...

he's ahead in georgia and alabama and oklahoma, how can he lose?

he's gonna win ohio, virginia, florida and col0rado and illinois...

ok, maybe not illinois...

go bowe · 11-12-2012, 01:50 AM

oh wait, did the election happen yet?

**patteeu** · 11-12-2012, 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by whoman69

I really don't think you want to get in a battle of who is more intolerant.

Your guy, the most divisive President in my lifetime, just ran a hate-filled campaign of intolerance, and you don't think *I* want to get into that debate?

penchief · 11-12-2012, 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu

You're right. It's unfair to say that all of Obama's supporters are takers looking for goodies. Some of them are just filled with hate of rich people, intolerance for traditional Christians (and/or Mormons) or racial resentment. Good catch.

And some are just lovers of country who believe in a level playing field, equal justice, and equal access. Who don't want to see our country sold off to the highest bidder. Who don't want to see corporations, ideologues, and intolerant religious zealots dictating the conditions under which we all have to live.

Some of us just believe in traditional American values...

penchief · 11-12-2012, 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu

Your guy, the most divisive President in my , just ran a hate-filled campaign of intolerance, and you don't think *I* want to get into that debate?

With posts like this it's getting hard to take you seriously. I'm beginning to believe that you really are putting us on.

**patteeu** · 11-12-2012, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by penchief

And some are just lovers of country who believe in a level playing field, equal justice, and equal access. Who don't want to see our country sold off to the highest bidder. Who don't want to see corporations, ideologues, and intolerant religious zealots dictating the conditions under which we all have to live.

Some of us just believe in traditional American values...

I sense some real hatred and intolerance in you, penchief. How do you feel about big corporate CEOs with mega-bonus compensation packages?

go bo doesn't seem too bad. In his case, maybe it's just age setting in.

10-21-2012, 10:13 PM
Comrade Crapski Veteran Join Date: Mar 2012 Casino cash: $19907	Mitt's winning Ohio Face the music, moonbats. America is sending the communist racebaiter back under his rock in Chicago. Two new Ohio polls came out yesterday after my Ohio post, from from Gravis Marketing and PPP, both of which point to a razor-thin race in the most coveted swing state. A closer look at each poll shows just how much Romney has gained since the debates, and why he would be absolutely thrilled if these polls were accurate on Election Day. The poll from Gravis Marketing shows Obama and Romney tied at 47 percent. But that’s as good as it gets for Obama. Among the most interesting tidbits from the poll: Romney leads Obama by 19 percent among independents, 52–33, and holds 92 percent of his base compared to Obama’s 87 percent. Obama is underwater in job approval, 44–50, and independents disapprove of him overwhelmingly, 31–58. And the poll has a Democratic advantage of 9 percent, which is a 4 percent jump from 2008 — no one believes that Democrats can match their 2008 turnout advantage, let alone almost double it. PPP (a Democratic firm) released their new poll yesterday showing Obama only up one point, 49 to 48. Just a week ago PPP had the race at 51–46 for Obama. But the four-point gain for Romney is even more impressive when you look at the poll’s findings: This week’s poll has a Democrat sample advantage of 8 percent; last week’s advantage was 4. Romney gained four points on Obama in a week despite the sample’s having four percentage points more Democrats. Romney leads with independents by 7 percent, up from a 5 percent last week. Obama’s approval is underwater at 48–50, and independents disapprove of him by a 41–54 margin. Last week Obama was in positive approval ground at 50–48, and independents disapproved by a much smaller 45–50 margin. Romney’s favorability has gone from a minus-6 margin last week (45–51) to a plus-2 this week (49–47). Trust on the economy went from Obama plus-5 last week (51–46) to plus-4 in Romney’s direction this week (51–47). Independents jumped from Romney plus-5 last week to Romney plus-15 this week. These two polls highlight what many saw in the second debate: Romney may have lost the overall debate, but he won handily on the issues of the economy, debt, and taxes. While Democrats were riding high this week after Obama narrowly won the face-off, Romney was quietly solidifying support from voters by commanding the issues that matter most. Based on these two polls, the only way Obama can win Ohio is if he finds a way to greatly surpass 2008 turnout with Democrats, which at the moment seems like an impossible task. If these polls hold, it won’t be long before the state Romney was declared dead in knocks down the last pillar of inevitability that Obama has left. — Josh Jordan is a small-business market-research consultant. You can follow him on Twitter @Numbersmuncher. http://www.nationalreview.com/corner...ar-josh-jordan
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11-12-2012, 01:50 AM	#146
go bowe bye bye bo... Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: independence Casino cash: $573672	oh wait, did the election happen yet?
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