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Old 11-13-2012, 10:38 AM  
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Phil Simms: Eli Manning is not elite

I got blasted this offseason when I called him a more fortunate version of Tony Romo.

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/gia...g-is-not-elite


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Eli Manning made it clear last season that he considers himself one of the “elite” quarterbacks in the NFL.

Phil Simms disagrees.

The former Giants quarterback shot down that “elite” theory on Monday night in an appearance on CBS Sports Network’s NFL Monday QB show. And he didn’t just blame Manning’s current slump, or his poor performance in the Giants’ 31-13 loss in Cincinnati on Sunday either.

“No, he is not one of the elites,” Simms said in quotes distributed by CBS. “Because when I hear the word elite, I’m thinking about guys that can make unbelievable plays on the field by themselves. There are very few quarterbacks in that category.

“So yes, Eli has been a tremendous team player. He has been MVP of the Super Bowl twice. I know that. But the way I look at it, the answer is no.”

It’s hard to argue considering the way Manning has played lately. He has topped 215 passing yards only once in the last five games, and over the past three games he’s had no touchdowns and four interceptions. In his ninth NFL season, the Giants quarterback has dipped into one of the worst slumps of his career.

Still, he has his supporters. Although former NFL quarterback Steve Beuerlein agreed with Simms on the CBS show -- he said “The problem (with the Giants) has been productivity offensively and specifically, Eli is in a slump right now. He is not playing his best football” – Hall of Famer Dan Fouts took Manning’s side.

“You can’t spell elite without Eli,” Fouts said. “The pressure situations that Eli has thrived in over his short career, in my mind, make him an elite quarterback, because that is when you’re judged. How well do you do when the pressure is on, when you’ve got to win the game?

“And all you have to do is look back at his two Super Bowl wins and the way he beat the Patriots. I have to give him a nod and say Eli is elite.”
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:41 AM   #31
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ya I heard this monday and he has a point, but Eli rolls a lil different than your avg elite player. that season he beat the 18 - 0 Pats, he was playing like dog poo. But the thing is he drove that team through the playoffs and nobody will deny Eli made the plays that beat the Pats for the championship that year.

Simms is becoming a bit of a media whore -- stirring controversy. That's all this amounts to for me.

Eli is a lil slow getting up to speed, no doubt -- probably got his clock cleaned by Peyton a few too many times as a youngster, but he is elite.
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:42 AM   #32
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I think everything about that play was lucky. Including the way Eli got out of that sack. I'll give Eli credit for fighting to get away instead of panicking and taking the sack. But 99 times out of 100 a QB would be sacked in that situation, I mean 3 separate Patriot players had a chance to sack him.
You just don't get it.

Of course the QB gets sacked almost everytime in that situation, but rarely do most QBs get out of a sack like that and follow it up with a perfectly thrown ball 30 yards downfield.

Most QBs don't have the moxie to do anything more than run, or look for a checkdown at best.

That's a play only 2 or 3 QBs in the NFL make.
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:59 AM   #33
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Eli has had a lot of things go his way. It's not like the Giants have been steamrolling people in the playoffs. A couple plays here and there have won those Super Bowls for the Giants.
Those "couple plays here and there" that won those gangs were all MADE BY ELI. YOU ****ING DUMBASS
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:00 PM   #34
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I think everything about that play was lucky. Including the way Eli got out of that sack. I'll give Eli credit for fighting to get away instead of panicking and taking the sack. But 99 times out of 100 a QB would be sacked in that situation, I mean 3 separate Patriot players had a chance to sack him.
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:01 PM   #35
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he is only elite when it matters...
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:02 PM   #36
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I got blasted this offseason when I called him a more fortunate version of Tony Romo.
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:13 PM   #37
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:44 PM   #38
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:55 PM   #39
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I'd take a 'not elite' QB just like Eli Manning any fuggin day. Simms is a freakin moron.
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Old 11-13-2012, 01:01 PM   #40
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Eli Manning is not elite. That's always been obvious, didnt need this guy to spray it out there.
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Old 11-13-2012, 01:03 PM   #41
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Eli Manning is not elite. That's always been obvious, didnt need this guy to spray it out there.
Good to know that you're a clueless moron.
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Old 11-13-2012, 01:07 PM   #42
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Good to know that you're a clueless moron.
Because of two offseasons where he sparked it up?
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Because of two offseasons where he sparked it up?

WTF?


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I guess Elway wasn't elite, either.

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The dumbasses apparently called each other last night and decided that today would be a good day to post on Chiefs Planet together.

I've never seen such idiocy spewed around this place all at once.
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