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**OFFICIAL** Illegal Immigration Reform Thread.
You know its coming. As soon as the fiscal cliff is finished, illegal immigration is next.
Sen. Graham and Sen. Shumar have already resumed their illegal immigration talks from two years ago. Both were on the sunday shows talking about the plan. Both are seeing a possible huge bi-partisan deal is now possible based on their earlier work form two years ago. Main points of the deal:
Today a group of powerful U.S. Senators announced they have agreed to a framework on comprehensive immigration reform. The bipartisan group includes Senators Chuck Schumer (D-NY), Dick Durbin (D-IL), Bob Menendez (D-NJ), Michael Bennett (D-CO), Lindsey Graham (R-SC), Marco Rubio (R-FL), John McCain (R-AZ), and Jeff Flake (R-AZ). The fact that both parties have agreed to the deal gives it much better prospects for passage. Path to Citizenship
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Im stuck between a rock and a hard place when it comes to Immigration reform. On one hand, we have these young adults who've grown up since grade school with an American Education, and are completely able to contribute to the country, but are forced to sit on the couch and be a drain on society instead. The only home that they've ever known wants to label them a bunch of uneducated, dirty illegals and wants them shipped out to a country that they have no memory of. That's an injustice and it's just not fair. On the other hand, we have their parents and grand parents who are stubborn in their ways, or are too lazy or just just not bright enough to assimilate. They came here illegally and created this problem in the first place. They are the ones who will NOT have anything to contribute and end up further burdening our welfare system. Somewhere inbetween is a solution and i think the OP is a damn good start, and something that people on both sides of the fence can get on board with. What worries me is our welfare system. I think that needs to be addressed before immigration can be fixed. The teet can't take anymore suckling.
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Just end birthright citizen ship. Simple. Problem solved. Less will come illegally. Less to gain.
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I don't think there is an immigration problem from a legal perspective other than the Federal Government not doing it's job of defending the borders.
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![]() I agree with everyone that English should be encouraged for citizenship. I think it's a bit unrealistic. As others have said, assimilation tends to come from the children. The nature of immigration is that you're not going to get a massive wave of immigration from the well educated, developed areas of the world where English is taught from a little age. It's important to set standards but keep them realistic. |
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Maybe not "massive", but we could sure get a larger percentage of our legal immigration from these areas if we refocused our immigration criteria.
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But again, I think there are a few different areas here that need to be separated. Short term work visas vs. long term immigrants. I guess you can add in a third too, the illegal immigrants already here. |
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Interesting ideas from many people in this thread. I definitely agree that securing the border should be a priority but I have given up hope that a military presence will be used.
We definitely need to streamline our legal immigration processes and if comprehensive immigration reform passes, the illegals need to pay a fine and go to the end of the line (doesn't apply to illegals with criminal records they will just need to be deported.) We also should have a biometric National ID card but I know that won't happen either. As far as learning to speak English that is a necessary step to becoming a citizen and if comprehensive immigration reform passes it is my understanding that illegals will not be granted immediate citizenship just issued green cards or whatever. You don't need to learn English to get a green card IIRC. |
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Impossible? How'd they learn to speak Spanish?
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