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Old 11-05-2012, 09:52 PM  
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*****OFFICIAL 2012 U.S. GENERAL ELECTION RESULTS*****

Obama re-elected with Ohio win...

Dems maintain control of Senate, GOP maintains control of House.

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Old 11-07-2012, 12:16 PM   #1696
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Hey, believe it. I'm 50 now. I haven't voted for a R in a presidential election since 04. Ron Paul/ Gary Johnson.

I'm one of the folks who could help the GOP. But they think the Religio's/abortion/"Christians are being prosecuted/Obama is the devil/They want to take my guns away/ The attack on Christmas"/ are where it's at. That's cool.

I'm not one to believe that they can't be remade however. In 04, the Dem party was pronounced dead and 4 years later, were thriving. The same can happen to the GOP. They just have to stop courting the far right.
It's weird that so many people reject the GOP because it doesn't support their entire set of beliefs. Somehow the democrats can hold together a coalition that includes union members who are racist, homophobic and sexist, homophobic and racist blacks, wealthy homosexuals, and class-envious social conservatives, but the GOP can't maintain a coalition between the economically libertarian religious right and the socially libertarian fiscally conservatives.
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Old 11-07-2012, 12:21 PM   #1697
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Paul Ryan was like bigfoot. But then again Ryan had made some pretty outrageous statement and supported some really far right ideas along with looking like a hypocrite on others (like his votes during Bush reign) so the less he was out there the better it was for the campaign.

I don't know the dynamics of Wisconsin in regards to the state's legislature so I can't comment on that.
The thing about Paul Ryan though is budget deficits and debt are his issue. It's his thing. Regardless of how you feel about the details of how to get there, it's clear that this is almost like his whole purpose of being. It's what he hammers and hammers and hammers on, and I think a majority of people are looking for someone like that.

I think that's why Scott Walker won Wisconsin (twice). 99% of the political statements Walker makes it seems are about fiscally smart government, a balanced budget and debt. It's abundantly clear that's where is mind and heart is, and that's where his primary focus is. It's not on social issues.

Of course, maybe that's easier for Governors to do at the state level and why Republicans are having such success in those races. Perhaps on the national level, where you have to address stuff like immigration, foreign policy, etc., it's a different story.

But back to Ryan though, I really do think if he (or anyone, for that matter) could have or were to get a national stage to do what he does best, which is to hammer on budgets and debt, you might see a shift. Maybe not enough of a shift, that's debatable, but a shift nonetheless.
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Old 11-08-2012, 09:52 PM   #1698
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Arsenio Hall@ArsenioOFFICIAL After the victory was official, President Obama called both Boehner and Mc Connell. Both declined the call, because they were "SLEEP"!!!
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Old 11-08-2012, 11:58 PM   #1699
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Arsenio Hall@ArsenioOFFICIAL After the victory was official, President Obama called both Boehner and Mc Connell. Both declined the call, because they were "SLEEP"!!!
i've seen that on several sites...
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Old 11-13-2012, 08:24 PM   #1700
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Obama officially won by 3 percent.

http://www.nationalmemo.com/final-re...-by-3-percent/

Final Results: Obama Wins Popular Vote By 3 Percent
Henry Decker
November 12th, 2012 7:34 am

With Florida’s votes counted at last, the results of the 2012 presidential election are just about final. President Barack Obama defeated Mitt Romney 332-206 in the electoral college, and as of Monday morning the president leads the popular vote 51 to 48 percent, with 62,088,847 votes to Romney’s 58,783,137.

The president’s 3-point popular vote win comes as a surprise to most pundits. Although some (such as Democracy Corps’ Stan Greenberg) predicted a comfortable Obama win, many others believed that Romney was likely to tie or even win the popular vote, even if he lost the electoral college.

Despite facing a far more difficult campaign, Obama did not fall far short of his 2008 results The president carried every state he did in 2008 with the exceptions of North Carolina and Indiana, and — although his 3-point popular vote win does not match his 7-point drubbing of John McCain — with 51 percent of the popular vote, Obama joins Franklin Roosevelt, Dwight Eisenhower, and Ronald Reagan as the only presidents in the past century to win over 50 percent twice.

By contrast, although Romney came slightly closer to winning, he actually won fewer total votes in 2012 than McCain won in 2008 (a reflection of the higher turnout four years ago).

Democrats also won the popular vote in the races for the House of Representatives, by a 50.3 to 49.7 percent margin. Although Democratic candidates won more total votes than their Republican opponents, aggressive redistricting in the past two years allowed Republicans to maintain a comfortable 233-194 seat majority.

Republicans were not as lucky in the Senate; despite being favored to win a majority just weeks ago, Democratic candidates nearly swept the competitive races en route to a 53-45 seat majority.

Taken together, the results add up to a resounding Democratic victory — and it appears that Republicans know it. As Jonathan Weisman and Jennifer Steinhauer report in the New York Times, House Speaker John Boehner told his caucus on a conference call last week that their party “lost, badly,” and that the Congressional Republicans “had to avoid the nasty showdowns that marked so much of the last two years.” According to Weisman and Steinhauer, the members on the call “murmured words of support,” in sharp contrast to their open revolt when Boehner tried to persuade them to compromise on a payroll tax cut extension last year.

So, while it’s highly unlikely that we’ve seen the last of Republican obstruction, it’s clear that President Obama and the Democrats have earned some political capital — and Republicans seem to be coming to terms with the fact that they intend to spend it.
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Old 11-13-2012, 08:28 PM   #1701
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Obama officially won by 3 percent.

http://www.nationalmemo.com/final-re...-by-3-percent/

Final Results: Obama Wins Popular Vote By 3 Percent
Henry Decker
November 12th, 2012 7:34 am

With Florida’s votes counted at last, the results of the 2012 presidential election are just about final. President Barack Obama defeated Mitt Romney 332-206 in the electoral college, and as of Monday morning the president leads the popular vote 51 to 48 percent, with 62,088,847 votes to Romney’s 58,783,137.

The president’s 3-point popular vote win comes as a surprise to most pundits. Although some (such as Democracy Corps’ Stan Greenberg) predicted a comfortable Obama win, many others believed that Romney was likely to tie or even win the popular vote, even if he lost the electoral college.

Despite facing a far more difficult campaign, Obama did not fall far short of his 2008 results The president carried every state he did in 2008 with the exceptions of North Carolina and Indiana, and — although his 3-point popular vote win does not match his 7-point drubbing of John McCain — with 51 percent of the popular vote, Obama joins Franklin Roosevelt, Dwight Eisenhower, and Ronald Reagan as the only presidents in the past century to win over 50 percent twice.

By contrast, although Romney came slightly closer to winning, he actually won fewer total votes in 2012 than McCain won in 2008 (a reflection of the higher turnout four years ago).

Democrats also won the popular vote in the races for the House of Representatives, by a 50.3 to 49.7 percent margin. Although Democratic candidates won more total votes than their Republican opponents, aggressive redistricting in the past two years allowed Republicans to maintain a comfortable 233-194 seat majority.

Republicans were not as lucky in the Senate; despite being favored to win a majority just weeks ago, Democratic candidates nearly swept the competitive races en route to a 53-45 seat majority.

Taken together, the results add up to a resounding Democratic victory — and it appears that Republicans know it. As Jonathan Weisman and Jennifer Steinhauer report in the New York Times, House Speaker John Boehner told his caucus on a conference call last week that their party “lost, badly,” and that the Congressional Republicans “had to avoid the nasty showdowns that marked so much of the last two years.” According to Weisman and Steinhauer, the members on the call “murmured words of support,” in sharp contrast to their open revolt when Boehner tried to persuade them to compromise on a payroll tax cut extension last year.

So, while it’s highly unlikely that we’ve seen the last of Republican obstruction, it’s clear that President Obama and the Democrats have earned some political capital — and Republicans seem to be coming to terms with the fact that they intend to spend it.
This article is biased and assumes a 2008 turnout model.
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Old 11-13-2012, 08:34 PM   #1702
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Keep in mind that with a 233-194 margin in the House, that leaves 7 seats still up for grabs. Most of those races are led by Democrats.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:34 PM   #1703
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In looking back, it really was a landslide, at least by standard set by the right wing.

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