Chiefs I think it's gonna be Barkley. - Page 11

Chris Meck · 11-13-2012, 12:05 PM

I think that Smith has more obvious physical ability, but there are real questions about offensive system he's in and his performance against real competition.

Barkley's a good bet to at least be a solid NFL QB. Intangibles are all there, and he's run a pro style offense for 4 years.

I think people are making too big of a deal about his arm being weak; it's not weak, it's just not elite. He's super accurate, though.

Gravedigger · 11-14-2012, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

That said I think he is cerebral with his throws..[/QUOTE]

You keep using this word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

You don't by any chance happen to have six fingers on your right hand?

Gravedigger · 11-14-2012, 10:18 AM

I'd be down with Chip Kelly and Barkley or Smith. I think if we could make it rain all day, we would get the most out of Jamaal Charles and Payton Hillis, people need to fear our passing game.

InChiefsHell · 11-14-2012, 11:05 AM

His highlights look pretty damn impressive to me. I'd take him with no argument. But, I'll take Smith and Wilson too...so there's that.

Frosty · 11-14-2012, 11:07 AM

I've never been a big fan of Barkley but I do think he will be a solid, if unspectacular, QB in the NFL. IMO, he has the highest floor/lowest ceiling of the top three. The Chiefs just need to take a chance with one of them and just forget about trying to go with one of the 2nd/3rd tier guys in the later rounds.

InChiefsHell · 11-14-2012, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Frosty

I've never been a big fan of Barkley but I do think he will be a solid, if unspectacular, QB in the NFL. IMO, he has the highest floor/lowest ceiling of the top three. The Chiefs just need to take a chance with one of them and just forget about trying to go with one of the 2nd/3rd tier guys in the later rounds.

Actually, they should do both, and have Stanzi compete. Clear out all the old farts and start fresh.

Frosty · 11-14-2012, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHell

Actually, they should do both, and have Stanzi compete. Clear out all the old farts and start fresh.

I would love to do what the 'Skins did and take two QBs in the draft. The problem is that there are so many holes on this team, especially if Bowe and Dorsey leave, and only so many picks. Plus, it would be tough for a new coach/GM to go into a season with three QB's that have never taken a snap in the NFL. They will probably sign an aging veteran to be the primary back up and keep Stanzi or Tanney as #3.

InChiefsHell · 11-14-2012, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosty

I would love to do what the 'Skins did and take two QBs in the draft. The problem is that there are so many holes on this team, especially if Bowe and Dorsey leave, and only so many picks. Plus, it would be tough for a new coach/GM to go into a season with three QB's that have never taken a snap in the NFL. They will probably sign an aging veteran to be the primary back up and keep Stanzi or Tanney as #3.

Well yeah...I'm hoping we get a new GM, he re-signs Bowe...not sure if I care bout Dorsey...and get a late round QB like Stanzi. Youth movement, without the Herm stank.

Buckweath · 11-14-2012, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosty

I would love to do what the 'Skins did and take two QBs in the draft. The problem is that there are so many holes on this team, especially if Bowe and Dorsey leave, and only so many picks. Plus, it would be tough for a new coach/GM to go into a season with three QB's that have never taken a snap in the NFL. They will probably sign an aging veteran to be the primary back up and keep Stanzi or Tanney as #3.

Bowe will get the franchise tag if he wants to leave. He could only be let go if Baldwin proved to be a #1 receiver this year, which hasn't happened possibly partly because of Cassell but still... you keep Bowe at all costs.

OzarksChiefsFan · 11-14-2012, 12:10 PM

I kind of liked what I saw of Bray against Missouri. Big arm and accurate,stands tall in the pocket and sees the field well.(reminds me of Mallet) Actually looks downfield(unlike Cassel).

I don't normally like the tall guys but he was impressive to me. I have watched Glennon a couple of times and I don't see how anyone see's Flaco in him.

Barkley has a high floor low ceiling like Sanchez. More upside with Smith, I have watched Wilson and remain unimpressed.

**DaKCMan AP** · 11-14-2012, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Buckweath

Bowe will get the franchise tag if he wants to leave. He could only be let go if Baldwin proved to be a #1 receiver this year, which hasn't happened possibly partly because of Cassell but still... you keep Bowe at all costs.

Then you have to sign Albert long term first.

Nightfyre · 11-14-2012, 12:13 PM

It might be blasphemy, but I would rather draft Jarvis Jones than Matt Barkley. However, drafting Barkley would be a huge win in my mind just as a change in organizational philosophy.

KC Tattoo · 11-14-2012, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

That said I think he is cerebral with his throws..[/QUOTE]

You keep using this word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

1. Cerebral Assassin A description for one who has superior intellect and utilizes their abilities to outwit any opponent in a competition.

Well this is the meaning I was trying to make in my post that Dane McCloud ignored. He gets his offense rolling that puts up points on a high level of play.

mr. tegu · 11-14-2012, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by OzarksChiefsFan

I kind of liked what I saw of Bray against Missouri. Big arm and accurate,stands tall in the pocket and sees the field well.(reminds me of Mallet) Actually looks downfield(unlike Cassel).

I don't normally like the tall guys but he was impressive to me. I have watched Glennon a couple of times and I don't see how anyone see's Flaco in him.

Barkley has a high floor low ceiling like Sanchez. More upside with Smith, I have watched Wilson and remain unimpressed.

Why is it that he reminds you of Mallet is a good thing? And since when does Sanchez have a high floor?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 11-14-2012, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Not sold on Barkley. Need someone who can perform without uber talent around him.

Uh, yeah; look to the left of this post for the answer to that question.

Chris Meck · 11-15-2012, 01:07 AM

Oh I definitely think Barkley will be a better pro than Sanchez. He's WAY more experienced, for starters.

11-13-2012, 12:05 PM
Chris Meck Veteran Join Date: May 2001 Location: midtown KC Casino cash: $7973	I think it's gonna be Barkley. I think that Smith has more obvious physical ability, but there are real questions about offensive system he's in and his performance against real competition. Barkley's a good bet to at least be a solid NFL QB. Intangibles are all there, and he's run a pro style offense for 4 years. I think people are making too big of a deal about his arm being weak; it's not weak, it's just not elite. He's super accurate, though.
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11-14-2012, 10:18 AM	#152
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InChiefsHell Rockin' yer FACE OFF! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Omaha, Nebraska Casino cash: $1068015	His highlights look pretty damn impressive to me. I'd take him with no argument. But, I'll take Smith and Wilson too...so there's that. __________________ We have a million reasons for failure, but not one excuse... Die Donks, DIE!! A quote: "Oh well, there's always next year. We'll be better then, you'll see..." - Every Chiefs fan for the last 41...crap...42 years... Quit listening to all that crappy new music and check out HEADSTRONG!
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Frosty ReBeaved Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Warshington Casino cash: $1010921	I've never been a big fan of Barkley but I do think he will be a solid, if unspectacular, QB in the NFL. IMO, he has the highest floor/lowest ceiling of the top three. The Chiefs just need to take a chance with one of them and just forget about trying to go with one of the 2nd/3rd tier guys in the later rounds.
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OzarksChiefsFan Starter Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Ozark, MO Casino cash: $9312	I kind of liked what I saw of Bray against Missouri. Big arm and accurate,stands tall in the pocket and sees the field well.(reminds me of Mallet) Actually looks downfield(unlike Cassel). I don't normally like the tall guys but he was impressive to me. I have watched Glennon a couple of times and I don't see how anyone see's Flaco in him. Barkley has a high floor low ceiling like Sanchez. More upside with Smith, I have watched Wilson and remain unimpressed.
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Nightfyre MVP Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Ft. Rucker, AL Casino cash: $68182	It might be blasphemy, but I would rather draft Jarvis Jones than Matt Barkley. However, drafting Barkley would be a huge win in my mind just as a change in organizational philosophy.
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Chris Meck Veteran Join Date: May 2001 Location: midtown KC Casino cash: $7973	Oh I definitely think Barkley will be a better pro than Sanchez. He's WAY more experienced, for starters.
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