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Old 11-14-2012, 08:13 PM  
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Obama said the top priority in solving the country's fiscal crisis "must be jobs and growth."
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White House press secretary Jay Carney said the president would bring to the table a proposal for $1.6 trillion in new taxes on business and the wealthy when he begins discussions with congressional Republicans, a figure that Obama outlined in his most recent budget plan. The targeted revenue is twice the amount Obama discussed with Republican leaders during debt talks during the summer of 2011.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/49821777

Ok, you can't say on one hand your #1 priority is "jobs and growth" and on the other hand talk about raising taxes on business.

For the economically challenged, raising taxes on businesses raises the cost of doing business which does not spur job creation nor growth of the economy.

I swear listening to this Admin and his party makes me feel like I took a handfull of crazy pills sometimes.
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:37 PM   #16
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It HAS to be fixed and SOON!
this can't be fixed. ever.
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:37 PM   #17
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He is doing what he said he would. The people voted and he is following through with it.

Cutting taxes for the job creators hasnt worked and we need to actually fix this mess.

I am not for raising taxes on anyone, normally, but this isnt normal. It HAS to be fixed and SOON!
I am not talking about raising taxes on individuals. I am talking about business. I swear some of you have a huge failure in reading comprehension.

Tell me, what does raising taxes on businesses acomplish in the way of jobs? How does that "fix this mess"?
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:37 PM   #18
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If only he would just eliminate PBS and then our debt would be wiped clean.
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:43 PM   #19
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If only he would just eliminate PBS and then our debt would be wiped clean.
The PBS line is as about as worthless as tax the rich. Neither are going to produce a dent in solving our problems.

Do you really think for 1 second this spend happy machine we have in DC is going to curtail spending if they get a new source of revenue?
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:45 PM   #20
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How about I haven't even looked at Drudge today, dumbass? This was on CNBC.
You got aggressive first pal.

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Old 11-14-2012, 08:46 PM   #21
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I am not talking about raising taxes on individuals. I am talking about business. I swear some of you have a huge failure in reading comprehension.

Tell me, what does raising taxes on businesses acomplish in the way of jobs? How does that "fix this mess"?
I fully understood your post. Business's may have to forgo a little extra profit to help "fix this mess" as all of us should. I think they should let all of the tax cuts expire, for now. As I stated, I am not for raising taxes on anyone, normally. The tax cuts helped put us here and should be expired. If we are going to get serious about fixing this then we need to raise taxes as an immediate response, massive cuts should be the next step.
We are all in this and we should all have to help out. Starting with those who it hurts the least is at least a start.
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:48 PM   #22
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I fully understood your post. Business's may have to forgo a little extra profit to help "fix this mess" as all of us should. I think they should let all of the tax cuts expire, for now. As I stated, I am not for raising taxes on anyone, normally. The tax cuts helped put us here and should be expired. If we are going to get serious about fixing this then we need to raise taxes as an immediate response, massive cuts should be the next step.
We are all in this and we should all have to help out. Starting with those who it hurts the least is at least a start.
Ok, so in your proposal, we will increase the cost of doing business AND...AND raise taxes on everyone with a sputtering economy and jobless rate at the 8%ish level. Congratulations! You just put us in a recession.
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:49 PM   #23
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The PBS line is as about as worthless as tax the rich. Neither are going to produce a dent in solving our problems.

Do you really think for 1 second this spend happy machine we have in DC is going to curtail spending if they get a new source of revenue?
That BS, both of those things would make a dent.

Everyone keeps saying, "taxing the rich wont fix the problem", "cutting PBS wont fix the problem". The truth is, no one thing will fix it, it will be the sum of a LOT of things, just like those.
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:50 PM   #24
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Ok, you can't say on one hand your #1 priority is "jobs and growth" and on the other hand talk about raising taxes on business.
well sure you can
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:53 PM   #25
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Ok, so in your proposal, we will increase the cost of doing business AND...AND raise taxes on everyone with a sputtering economy and jobless rate at the 8%ish level. Congratulations! You just put us in a recession.
The time for indecision has past, its time we DO something.

We tried lowering taxes and lowering the cost of doing business and where did we end up....in a recession.
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:54 PM   #26
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http://www.cnbc.com/id/49821777

Ok, you can't say on one hand your #1 priority is "jobs and growth" and on the other hand talk about raising taxes on business.

For the economically challenged, raising taxes on businesses raises the cost of doing business which does not spur job creation nor growth of the economy.

I swear listening to this Admin and his party makes me feel like I took a handfull of crazy pills sometimes.
Because job creation means more govt jobs for bureaucrats to Obama.
Those new IRS agents for Obamacare will have to be paid too.

Gawd! What an effin' commie this guy is. It's really gonna come out now in his second term. Please, Republicans, do your jobs and box him in so he's the lamest duck president we've ever had. We're gonna need that.
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:55 PM   #27
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The time for indecision has past, its time we DO something.

We tried lowering taxes and lowering the cost of doing business and where did we end up....in a recession.
I never said it wasn't time to do something. It's past time. But that doesn't mean raising taxes on business is the answer. There is an answer and it's a clear answer that continues to elude the economic challenged politicians in DC
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The time for indecision has past, its time we DO something.
Actually, doing nothing is the best thing because then automatic cuts in spending and taxes will happen.
That right there IS doing something. Precisely what both parties called for earlier.

They can also default. That'd be doing something too. Our govt is bankrupt.

Crying about a fiscal cliff is code for save the govt!!! I prefer to save the people!!!

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We tried lowering taxes and lowering the cost of doing business and where did we end up....in a recession.



And you guys cried foul about all the spending Bush and his Republicans engaged in, while the Bush Fed engaged in stimulus. It's no wonder we had a recession.

The cognitive dissonance is astounding.
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The time for indecision has past, its time we DO something.

We tried lowering taxes and lowering the cost of doing business and where did we end up....in a recession.
Watch out your your close to being called out for advocating dictatorship.
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Because job creation means more govt jobs for bureaucrats to Obama.
Those new IRS agents for Obamacare will have to be paid too.

Gawd! What an effin' commie this guy is. It's really gonna come out now in his second term. Please, Republicans, do your jobs and box him in so he's the lamest duck president we've ever had. We're gonna need that.
I generally respect what you say even if I dont agree with it but this...

How could you think 4 years of accomplishing nothing, because of the stand off is what we need?
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