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Old 11-15-2012, 07:14 AM  
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A week later Romney is still a douchebag

My guess Mittens he won because he didn't insult half the country and didn't come across as a prick to normal middle class people.

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Mitt Romney told donors Wednesday he blamed last week’s loss to President Barack Obama in part to “gifts” the Obama administration gave to key voter blocs, including African Americans, Hispanics and young women, according to media reports.

“The president’s campaign focused on giving targeted groups a big gift — so he made a big effort on small things. Those small things, by the way, add up to trillions of dollars,” Romney said on a conference call with donors, the Los Angeles Times first reported.

The “gifts,” according to Romney, included forgiving college loan interest, free contraceptive coverage and the part of Obamacare that allows people 26 and younger to be covered under their parents’ health care plans.

“You can imagine for somebody making $25,000 or $30,000 or $35,000 a year, being told you’re now going to get free healthcare, particularly if you don’t have it, getting free healthcare worth, what, $10,000 per family, in perpetuity. I mean, this is huge,” Romney said, the New York Times reported.

“Likewise with Hispanic voters, free healthcare was a big plus,” Romney added. “But in addition with regards to Hispanic voters, the amnesty for children of illegals, the so-called Dream Act kids, was a huge plus for that voting group.”




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Old 11-15-2012, 11:59 AM   #76
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Exit polls showed more of them, by at least 50% voted for the Democrats class warfare arguments. The Republicans didn't make class warfare arguments.
Really no "makers" or "takers?" The 47 percent victims that want something for nothing? You are kidding right?

Mitt should have stood by his gracious concession words, he is just confirming what he later denied as misunderstood in that hidden camera moment.
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Old 11-15-2012, 12:08 PM   #77
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Really no "makers" or "takers?" The 47 percent victims that want something for nothing? You are kidding right?

Mitt should have stood by his gracious concession words, he is just confirming what he later denied as misunderstood in that hidden camera moment.
It is silly that he ever denied it at all. He was just expressing an integral part of American conservative philosophy. Look at the conservatives posting in this thread. They do believe that this country is divided into "makers and takers" and that the takers are why Obama won. Why not just be open about it?
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Old 11-15-2012, 12:12 PM   #78
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Really no "makers" or "takers?" The 47 percent victims that want something for nothing? You are kidding right?
Generally, that's not considered class warfare because it's not making an argument for redistribution to take place.

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Mitt should have stood by his gracious concession words, he is just confirming what he later denied as misunderstood in that hidden camera moment.
Primarily to those on the left because it reflects their values. There are others that agree with him. His mistake is allowing the press to have a field day.
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Old 11-15-2012, 12:20 PM   #79
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Do you deny that obama fosters divisions based on class and race?
Do you have a specific example?
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Old 11-15-2012, 12:25 PM   #80
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Do you have a specific example?
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Old 11-15-2012, 12:28 PM   #81
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You said it was a fact, it is not that is your opinion which you are entitled to but last Tuesday people rejected your opinion.

The reason why I brought up raising rich people's taxes by 4% is because that is what Obama ran on. You probably think that is class warfare I don't. But that is my opinion
Huh? How does the election change the fact that obama uses class and race division as a cornerstone of his operations?
The fact he was elected despite his abysmal record goes toward proving it, not disproving.

Do you deny that obama and his handlers promote class and racial division among Americans?
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Old 11-15-2012, 12:32 PM   #82
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It is silly that he ever denied it at all. He was just expressing an integral part of American conservative philosophy. Look at the conservatives posting in this thread. They do believe that this country is divided into "makers and takers" and that the takers are why Obama won. Why not just be open about it?
As one of the takers, are you offended by this truth?
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Old 11-15-2012, 12:32 PM   #83
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Huh? How does the election change the fact that obama uses class and race division as a cornerstone of his operations?
The fact he was elected despite his abysmal record goes toward proving it, not disproving.

Do you deny that obama and his handlers promote class and racial division among Americans?
Because people believed Romney not Obama was trying to divide this country especially with Romney's 47% comments.
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Do you have a specific example?
You didn't build that question.
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Because people believed Romney not Obama was trying to divide this country especially with Romney's 47% comments.
Okay dirk.
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Because people believed Romney not Obama was trying to divide this country especially with Romney's 47% comments.
The country was already divided. The anti-Bush left said Bush had divided it.
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Old 11-15-2012, 12:39 PM   #87
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You didn't build that question.
I never thought of that quote as a class warfare agrument but more of a government does some good vs government is all bad argument.

But I could be wrong
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I never thought of that quote as a class warfare agrument but more of a government does some good vs government is all bad argument.

But I could be wrong
You are a smart guy. You know obama and his camp engage in these tactics in order to engage and mobilize the black, minority, gay, poor and idealistic (students, young people, et al) voters.

That, and handing out free shit.
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Old 11-15-2012, 12:53 PM   #89
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You are a smart guy. You know obama and his camp engage in these tactics in order to engage and mobilize the black, minority, gay, poor and idealistic (students, young people, et al) voters.

That, and handing out free shit.
Oh phooey. They don't have to engage in any of those tactics all they had to do is watch the Republican Primary debates.
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Really no "makers" or "takers?" The 47 percent victims that want something for nothing? You are kidding right?

Mitt should have stood by his gracious concession words, he is just confirming what he later denied as misunderstood in that hidden camera moment.
Republicans are at war with the unrepentant taker class of the welfare state in the same way that the US is at war with al Qaeda.

Maybe Mitt should have hired me to run his communications operation!
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