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Old 11-15-2012, 03:10 PM  
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Rate Pioli's Draft Pick By Pick

Grade Pioli's drafts.


Cut and paste the list and place your grades next to each pick. Please grade on the curve, meaning you need to take into account where they were drafted along with production.

Example: 1. Tyson Jackson F-



2012

1. Dontari Poe
2. Jeff Allen
3. Donald Stephenson
4. Devon Wylie
5. DeQuan Menzie
6. Cyrus Gray
7. Jerome Long
7. Junior Hemingway


2011

1. Jonathan Baldwin
2. Rodney Hudson
3. Justin Houston
3. Allen Bailey
4. Jalil Brown
5. Ricky Stanzi
5. Gabe Miller
6. Jerrell Powe
7. Shane Bannon

2010

1 Eric Berry
2 Dexter McCluster
2 Javier Arenas
3 Jon Asamoah
3 Tony Moeaki
5 Kendrick Lewis
5 Cameron Sheffield

2009

1 Tyson Jackson
2. **** You Pioli
3 Alex Magee
4 Donald Washington
5 Colin Brown
6 Quinten Lawrence
7 Javarris Williams
7 Jake O'Connell
7 Ryan Succop


It will be nice to destroy Pioli's supposed "strength" when it comes to the draft piece by piece.
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Old 11-15-2012, 03:53 PM   #16
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1. Dontari Poe - B
2. Jeff Allen - C
3. Donald Stephenson - F
4. Devon Wylie - D
5. DeQuan Menzie - INC
6. Cyrus Gray - C
7. Jerome Long - F
7. Junior Hemingway - F


2011

1. Jonathan Baldwin - F
2. Rodney Hudson - C
3. Justin Houston - A
3. Allen Bailey - C
4. Jalil Brown - C
5. Ricky Stanzi - F
5. Gabe Miller - F
6. Jerrell Powe - C
7. Shane Bannon - F

2010

1 Eric Berry - B
2 Dexter McCluster - F
2 Javier Arenas - D
3 Jon Asamoah - B
3 Tony Moeaki - D
5 Kendrick Lewis - C
5 Cameron Sheffield - D

2009

1 Tyson Jackson - F
2. Cassel - F
3 Alex Magee - F
4 Donald Washington - F
5 Colin Brown - F
6 Quinten Lawrence - F
7 Javarris Williams - F
7 Jake O'Connell - F
7 Ryan Succop - B
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Old 11-15-2012, 04:04 PM   #17
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That 2009 draft was probably the worst in team history.

2010 (Pioli's best draft) only gave him a B for it.

2011 is a C-

all the others pretty much suck
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Old 11-15-2012, 04:17 PM   #18
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1. Jonathan Baldwin F
2. Rodney Hudson I
3. Justin Houston C
3. Allen Bailey F
4. Jalil Brown F
5. Ricky Stanzi I
5. Gabe Miller F
6. Jerrell Powe D
7. Shane Bannon F

2010

1 Eric Berry C
2 Dexter McCluster D
2 Javier Arenas D
3 Jon Asamoah C
3 Tony Moeaki D
5 Kendrick Lewis D
5 Cameron Sheffield F
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Old 11-15-2012, 04:22 PM   #19
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2012

1. Dontari Poe - C
2. Jeff Allen - C
3. Donald Stephenson - D-
4. Devon Wylie - F
5. DeQuan Menzie - F
6. Cyrus Gray - D
7. Jerome Long - F
7. Junior Hemingway - F


2011

1. Jonathan Baldwin - F
2. Rodney Hudson - D
3. Justin Houston - A
3. Allen Bailey - B
4. Jalil Brown - C
5. Ricky Stanzi - F
5. Gabe Miller - F
6. Jerrell Powe - B
7. Shane Bannon - F

2010

1 Eric Berry - B
2 Dexter McCluster - C+
2 Javier Arenas - D
3 Jon Asamoah - B
3 Tony Moeaki - C
5 Kendrick Lewis - C+
5 Cameron Sheffield - F

2009

1 Tyson Jackson - F
3 Alex Magee - F
4 Donald Washington - F
5 Colin Brown - F
6 Quinten Lawrence - F
7 Javarris Williams - F
7 Jake O'Connell - F
7 Ryan Succop - B


The Best Player Pioli's drafted so far is Houston.
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Old 11-15-2012, 04:27 PM   #20
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BTW, i gave the 40 year old rookie (Cassel) in 2009 an F as well, Thanks a lot Pissoli.
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Old 11-15-2012, 04:27 PM   #21
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2012

1. Dontari Poe - B
2. Jeff Allen - C
3. Donald Stephenson - C
4. Devon Wylie - C
5. DeQuan Menzie - C
6. Cyrus Gray - C
7. Jerome Long - D
7. Junior Hemingway - D


2011

1. Jonathan Baldwin - D
2. Rodney Hudson - B
3. Justin Houston - A
3. Allen Bailey - C+
4. Jalil Brown - C
5. Ricky Stanzi - D-
5. Gabe Miller - F
6. Jerrell Powe - D+
7. Shane Bannon - F

2010

1 Eric Berry - A-
2 Dexter McCluster - B-
2 Javier Arenas - C+
3 Jon Asamoah - B
3 Tony Moeaki - B
5 Kendrick Lewis - B
5 Cameron Sheffield - C

2009

1 Tyson Jackson - D-
3 Alex Magee - F
4 Donald Washington - C-
5 Colin Brown - F
6 Quinten Lawrence - F
7 Javarris Williams - D-
7 Jake O'Connell - D
7 Ryan Succop - B+
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Old 11-15-2012, 04:28 PM   #22
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I think it's important to grade relative to their draft spot. For instance, more weight should be given to a player drafted high that underperforms. Same with a player drafted low that overachieves relative to his position.

I'm not gonna do 2012. Too early to tell...

2011

1. Jonathan Baldwin D- (I don't know if he sucks or if Cassel refuses to look his way)
2. Rodney Hudson C (decidedly average)
3. Justin Houston B+ (looking pretty good thus far)
3. Allen Bailey D+ (meh)
4. Jalil Brown C (been okay considering he was a 4th rounder)
5. Ricky Stanzi F (what's the point?)
5. Gabe Miller F (who?)
6. Jerrell Powe C- (not awful)
7. Shane Bannon F (nope)

2010

1 Eric Berry C- (had one good year, got injured, having sub-par sophomore year)
2 Dexter McCluster D- (either he sucks or the coaching staff is awful)
2 Javier Arenas D (bad fulltime CB, not an atrocious nickel, not great on returns)
3 Jon Asamoah B (solid lineman for a 3rd rounder)
3 Tony Moeaki C (see Eric Berry)
5 Kendrick Lewis C (having a bad year but doesn't look to be awful overall)
5 Cameron Sheffield F (facepalm)

2009

1 Tyson Jackson F (there is no bigger failure than this pick right here)
2. Cassel D- (only thing that didn't make this an F was his one decent season)
3 Alex Magee F (bad pick)
4 Donald Washington F (furk)
5 Colin Brown F (again, furk)
6 Quinten Lawrence F (poop)
7 Javarris Williams F (peanut)
7 Jake O'Connell D (for a 7th rounder...well, whatever)
7 Ryan Succop B+ (kickers are kind of a dime a dozen, but he's been solid)

If you were to assign a GPA, it would grade out to a 1.08 on a 4.0 scale.

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Old 11-15-2012, 04:30 PM   #23
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I see Houston is being overrated a bit.

Maybe a B. Way too soon to give him an A at this point.
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Old 11-15-2012, 04:32 PM   #24
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I see Houston is being overrated a bit.

Maybe a B. Way too soon to give him an A at this point.
Probably but he's the only impact player from Pioli's drafts combined IMO.
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Old 11-15-2012, 04:47 PM   #25
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Yeah, people are a little rough. You shouldn't expect to draft pro bowlers in the late rounds


2012

1. Dontari Poe - A (I know... I know....)
2. Jeff Allen - C (Not a bad pick. But you can't pass on a QB)
3. Donald Stephenson - Wait and see
4. Devon Wylie - Wait and see
5. DeQuan Menzie - C-
6. Cyrus Gray - A
7. Jerome Long - D
7. Junior Hemingway - Wait and see


2011

1. Jonathan Baldwin - C+
2. Rodney Hudson - B
3. Justin Houston - A+
3. Allen Bailey - B
4. Jalil Brown - C+
5. Ricky Stanzi - A-
5. Gabe Miller - F
6. Jerrell Powe - A
7. Shane Bannon - F

2010

1 Eric Berry - B+
2 Dexter McCluster - C+ (still a wait and see for me)
2 Javier Arenas - B-
3 Jon Asamoah - A-
3 Tony Moeaki - B
5 Kendrick Lewis - A- (for a 5th rounder, he's a great pick)
5 Cameron Sheffield - D

2009

1 Tyson Jackson - C+
2. **** You Pioli - Z+
3 Alex Magee - F
4 Donald Washington - D
5 Colin Brown - F
6 Quinten Lawrence - D
7 Javarris Williams - F
7 Jake O'Connell - F
7 Ryan Succop - B

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Grade Pioli's drafts.


Cut and paste the list and place your grades next to each pick. Please grade on the curve, meaning you need to take into account where they were drafted along with production.

Example: 1. Tyson Jackson F-


It will be nice to destroy Pioli's supposed "strength" when it comes to the draft piece by piece.
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Old 11-15-2012, 04:56 PM   #26
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Yeah, people are a little rough. You shouldn't expect to draft pro bowlers in the late rounds

i based Pioli's grade on these ****ups:
A second rounder for Cassole,

TJ pick was a terrible pick

Eric Berry looks like shit compared to Earl Thomas

and Poe was a terrible choice.
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Old 11-15-2012, 04:58 PM   #27
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Yeah, people are a little rough. You shouldn't expect to draft pro bowlers in the late rounds

5. Ricky Stanzi - A-
There it is...

2nd year player with like 5 ACTIVE games under his belt.

What a ****ing waste... and he gets an A-!
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Old 11-15-2012, 05:00 PM   #28
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i based Pioli's grade on these ****ups:
A second rounder for Cassole,

TJ pick was a terrible pick

Eric Berry looks like shit compared to Earl Thomas

and Poe was a terrible choice.
I should have bumped TJ down to a D. He hasn't been a disaster, but that's not nearly good enough for a 3rd pick.

I don't care about the Berry choice. We all wanted it and I think hindsight is 20/20 if we criticize the pick now. I still think he can improve with better coaching.

Poe was a terrific pick, in my opinion. It's the gamble Pioli has refused to make. But too little too late. He plays a position of high positional value. And he has a very unique skill set. That's better than all the safe picks Pioli has continued to make. With better coaching, Poe has the upside to be a Vince Wilfork type guy, which I'd take in an absolute heartbeat.
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Old 11-15-2012, 05:00 PM   #29
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2012

1. Dontari Poe - C
2. Jeff Allen - C
3. Donald Stephenson - D
4. Devon Wylie - D
5. DeQuan Menzie - D
6. Cyrus Gray - D
7. Jerome Long - F
7. Junior Hemingway - F


2011

1. Jonathan Baldwin - F
2. Rodney Hudson - C
3. Justin Houston - A
3. Allen Bailey - D
4. Jalil Brown - D
5. Ricky Stanzi - F
5. Gabe Miller - F
6. Jerrell Powe - C
7. Shane Bannon - F

2010

1 Eric Berry - B
2 Dexter McCluster - C
2 Javier Arenas - D
3 Jon Asamoah - B
3 Tony Moeaki - C
5 Kendrick Lewis - C
5 Cameron Sheffield - D

2009

1 Tyson Jackson - D
3 Alex Magee - F
4 Donald Washington - F
5 Colin Brown - F
6 Quinten Lawrence - F
7 Javarris Williams - F
7 Jake O'Connell - D
7 Ryan Succop - C
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There it is...

2nd year player with like 5 ACTIVE games under his belt.

What a ****ing waste... and he gets an A-!
He was a good project QB. Taking him in the 5th was a very good value.
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