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BREAKING: The president knew the truth about Benghazi

http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ri...5445_blog.html


BREAKING: The president knew the truth about Benghazi

By Jennifer Rubin, Published: NOVEMBER 16, 5:18 PM ET


In a blockbuster report, John Solomon, the former Associated Press and Post reporter, has ferreted out the president’s daily brief that informed him within 72 hours of the Sept. 11 attack that the Benghazi attack was a jihadist operation.

Citing officials directly familiar with the information, Solomon writes in the Washington Guardian that Obama and other administration officials were told that “that the attack was likely carried out by local militia and other armed extremists sympathetic to al-Qaida in the region.”

He adds:

The details from the CIA and Pentagon assessments of the killing of Ambassador Chris [Stevens] were far more specific, more detailed and more current than the unclassified talking points that UN Ambassador Susan Rice and other officials used five days after the attack to suggest to Americans that an unruly mob angry over an anti-Islamic video was to blame, officials said.

Most of the details affirming al-Qaida links were edited or excluded from the unclassified talking points used by Rice in appearances on news programs the weekend after the attack, officials confirmed Friday. Multiple agencies were involved in excising information, doing so because it revealed sources and methods, dealt with classified intercepts or involved information that was not yet fully confirmed, the officials said.

Solomon cautions that there were bits of evidence pointing to a spontaneous attack but, as Eli Lake of the Daily Beast and others have reported, he writes: “Among the early evidence cited in the briefings to the president and other senior officials were intercepts showing some of the participants were known members or supporters of Ansar al-Sharia — the al-Qaida-sympathizing militia in Libya — and the AQIM, which is a direct affiliate of al-Qaida in northern Africa, the officials said.”

How could the president and his senior staff then have allowed (or rather, sent) Rice to go out to tell an entirely different tale to the American people on Sept. 16 on five TV shows?

This report indicates that the president certainly knew that Benghazi wasn’t a rogue movie review gone bad. He had information that plainly spelled out what was later confirmed by additional intelligence. If this information was too confidential to share with the public, at the very least the president and others should not have mislead voters.

This is a full-blown scandal, and in light of this information, the press corps’s slothful indifference to uncovering the truth at Wednesday’s news conference with Obama is all the more shocking. It is time for the president to come clean. The scandal has now enveloped the Oval Office and will define his second term, if not resolved satisfactorily.

The irony of this is that Rice may well have been used as a patsy, unaware that she was sent out to spin a misleading tale. My colleague Dana Milbank recounts Rice’s long-standing inability to get along with others and to be circumspect in her pronouncements:

It’s true that, in her much-criticized TV performance, she was reciting talking points given to her by the intelligence agencies. But that’s the trouble. Rice stuck with her points even though they had been contradicted by the president of the Libyan National Assembly, who, on CBS’s ‘Face the Nation’ just before Rice, said there was “no doubt” that the attack on Americans in Benghazi “was preplanned.” Rice rebutted the Libyan official, arguing — falsely, it turned out — that there was no evidence of such planning. . . . Obama can do better at State than Susan Rice.

Frankly the same could be said of many national security positions at this point. The American people made their choice in November on the president, but it now appears they were duped regarding the real facts concerning Benghazi. What are we going to do about that?
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Old 11-18-2012, 03:16 PM   #76
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The one time he did say something, it wasn't true, or for that matter, irrelevant in the scheme of things.

That's what he got pounced on for.
Consider the source where that info come from, the liberal media. Like I said, they went all in for a candidate. Never in my life have I witnessed such a thing or so blatently.

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Old 11-18-2012, 03:22 PM   #77
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I told you, you are such an arrogant ass and you are. Just because I called you out for your childishness, are you going to stalk me like you do ROYC75? I swear, you modern liberals are nothing more than children that never grew up, in adult bodies. This place has been full of you people since the beginning.

I have to laugh at you claiming I've got the victim mentallity and why it shows just how arrogant of an ass you are. I came from a poor minority family and never, ever asked for any help from anyone but maybe family. I took nothing and turned it in to something of a business for almost 17 years until the statism you libs believe in so much, that has killed our economy, and hurt the American dream for so many. So next time you decide to talk out your ass, think twice about it.

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Old 11-18-2012, 03:34 PM   #78
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Sounds like you're looking for a scapegoat for your own failure.
Exactly.

DON'T USE THE GOVERNMENT FOR ANYTHING!!!! SOCIALISM!!! PULL YOURSELF UP BY YOUR BOOTSTRAPS!!!

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THE GOVERNMENT IS THE REASON FOR MY FAILURES!!! BLAME THEM!

Oh well Mr. Illusion. The free market is not for everyone. More money for me I guess.
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Consider the source where that info come from, the liberal media. Like I said, they went all in for a candidate. Never in my life have I witnessed such a thing or so blatently.

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Exactly.

DON'T USE THE GOVERNMENT FOR ANYTHING!!!! SOCIALISM!!! PULL YOURSELF UP BY YOUR BOOTSTRAPS!!!

followed up with...

THE GOVERNMENT IS THE REASON FOR MY FAILURES!!! BLAME THEM!

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Victim mentality.


There you go, talking out your ass again. It just goes to show how messed up the education system in America is when you don't know the difference between the free markets and statism. You realize a majority of Americans with the last election, are now supporting more statism? Your education also failed you because the more we move towards statism, the more it destroys free markets/the private sector. Continue to be dumbed-down though.

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Old 11-18-2012, 04:00 PM   #81
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There you go, talking out your ass again. It just goes to show how messed up the education system in America is when you don't know the difference between the free markets and statism. You realize a majority of Americans with the last election, are now supporting more statism? Your education also failed you because the more we move towards statism, the more it destroys free markets/the private sector. Continue to be dumbed-down though.

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Free markets are working just fine for me. Self employed doing what I love. I am responsible for any successes I have and will be responsible for any failures.

I will let you fake conservatives blame the government for your woes and laugh it up.
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There you go, talking out your ass again. It just goes to show how messed up the education system in America is when you don't know the difference between the free markets and statism. You realize a majority of Americans with the last election, are now supporting more statism? Your education also failed you because the more we move towards statism, the more it destroys free markets/the private sector. Continue to be dumbed-down though.

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I took nothing and turned it in to something of a business for almost 17 years until the statism you libs believe in so much, that has killed our economy, and hurt the American dream for so many. So next time you decide to talk out your ass, think twice about it.
How did "statism" take away your business, if I'm reading what you're saying correctly?
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Free markets are working just fine for me. Self employed doing what I love. I am responsible for any successes I have and will be responsible for any failures.
Did not know that. What kind of business?
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Free markets are working just fine for me. Self employed doing what I love. I am responsible for any successes I have and will be responsible for any failures.

I will let you fake conservatives blame the government for your woes and laugh it up.
The American education system failed you miserably if you don't understand what I was saying and went on to deflect.

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The American education system failed you miserably if you don't understand what I was saying and went on to deflect.

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Did not know that. What kind of business?
Commercial photography.
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How did "statism" take away your business, if I'm reading what you're saying correctly?
Geez Brock, I hope you are not this clueless too. You don't realize the debt we have, to try to afford the big government we have, to the tune it is no longer sustainable? We are printing money like crazy to try to keep this facade going. It's crazy people don't understand the damage we've done to ourselves. The printing of more and more money is causing real price inflation that is killing the American household right now and their spending ability. You think that is helpful for business the way we've allowed this big government utopia, you libs hold so dear, to continue down this path of wrecklessness? I can tell you from experience, it is not. In fact, this country is in a lot of trouble if people don't wake up to this wrecklessness.

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Geez Brock, I hope you are not this clueless too. You don't realize the debt we have, to try to afford the big government we have, to the tune it is no longer sustainable? We are printing money like crazy to try to keep this facade going. It's crazy people don't understand the damage we've done to ourselves. The printing of more and more money is causing real price inflation that is killing the American household right now and their spending ability. You think that is helpful for business the way we've allowed this big government utopia, you libs hold so dear, to continue down this path of wrecklessness? I can tell you from experience, it is not. In fact, this country is in a lot of trouble if people don't wake up to this wrecklessness.

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Geez Brock, I hope you are not this clueless too. You don't realize the debt we have, to try to afford the big government we have, to the tune it is no longer sustainable? We are printing money like crazy to try to keep this facade going. It's crazy people don't understand the damage we've done to ourselves. The printing of more and more money is causing real price inflation that is killing the American household right now and their spending ability. You think that is helpful for business the way we've allowed this big government utopia, you libs hold so dear, to continue down this path of wrecklessness? I can tell you from experience, it is not. In fact, this country is in a lot of trouble if people don't wake up to this wrecklessness.

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Were you going to answer my question?
Reread carefully, we've been on the statist path for decades now and have the massive debt to prove it.

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