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Old 11-20-2012, 11:53 AM  
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Marco Rubio, Republican Savior?

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When asked how old he thinks the Earth is, Rubio makes that much clear:

Im not a scientist, man. I can tell you what recorded history says, I can tell you what the Bible says, but I think thats a dispute amongst theologians and I think it has nothing to do with the gross domestic product or economic growth of the United States. I think the age of the universe has zero to do with how our economy is going to grow. Im not a scientist. I dont think Im qualified to answer a question like that. At the end of the day, I think there are multiple theories out there on how the universe was created and I think this is a country where people should have the opportunity to teach them all. I think parents should be able to teach their kids what their faith says, what science says. Whether the Earth was created in 7 days, or 7 actual eras, Im not sure well ever be able to answer that. Its one of the great mysteries.
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Old 11-20-2012, 01:57 PM   #76
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Doesn't Rubio have eligibility questions of his own?
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Old 11-20-2012, 01:59 PM   #77
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And here's the rub. Why should any halfway intelligent moderate buy his economic prescriptions for the country (supply side economics, prolly) when he's this willfully ignorant on accepted scientific principles.
I'll bet Barack Obama can't make apple cobbler either...

Who gives a shit?

Democrats are just laughably transparent here and that's why I'm done listening to them talk about what they want in a candidate. All they want in a candidate is someone with a D after their name.

His answer here is incredibly reasonable. He doesn't care. At the same time he recognizes that he has a constituency that does. So what does he do? He sidesteps the question in favor of trying to keep the focus on stuff that actually is relevant.

To which the Democrats start to chirp in unison and call him an idiot.

It just doesn't matter what anyone says to you folks unless it's exactly what you'd have said. And if they don't say what you'd have said on all things, then clearly they can't be trusted to discuss anything.

It's why there's just no point in discussing politics anymore. None of you have anything to actually talk about.
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Old 11-20-2012, 02:04 PM   #78
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Setting up the universe and creating earth are two different things. The earth came much later.

Yes, I am somewhat familiar with the science. The idea is that God could have created the entire universe "as is" before he created Man. A being with ultimate power over time and space would not have to sit around and wait for the laws of physics to apply. He would set them up and allow them to control the universe so that you would have to use faith to determine His existence.
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Old 11-20-2012, 02:36 PM   #79
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Rubio would get similar results as Romney.
Yup! Plus there's indication he has a tendency toward corruption. Like when he used that credit card from the party for personal items. Not a good sign. At any rate, just another BIG govt statist.
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Old 11-20-2012, 02:38 PM   #80
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I'll bet Barack Obama can't make apple cobbler either...

Who gives a shit?

Democrats are just laughably transparent here and that's why I'm done listening to them talk about what they want in a candidate. All they want in a candidate is someone with a D after their name.

His answer here is incredibly reasonable. He doesn't care. At the same time he recognizes that he has a constituency that does. So what does he do? He sidesteps the question in favor of trying to keep the focus on stuff that actually is relevant.

To which the Democrats start to chirp in unison and call him an idiot.

It just doesn't matter what anyone says to you folks unless it's exactly what you'd have said. And if they don't say what you'd have said on all things, then clearly they can't be trusted to discuss anything.

It's why there's just no point in discussing politics anymore. None of you have anything to actually talk about.
Thank you.
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Old 11-20-2012, 02:47 PM   #81
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I'll bet Barack Obama can't make apple cobbler either...

Who gives a shit?

Democrats are just laughably transparent here and that's why I'm done listening to them talk about what they want in a candidate. All they want in a candidate is someone with a D after their name.

His answer here is incredibly reasonable. He doesn't care. At the same time he recognizes that he has a constituency that does. So what does he do? He sidesteps the question in favor of trying to keep the focus on stuff that actually is relevant.

To which the Democrats start to chirp in unison and call him an idiot.

It just doesn't matter what anyone says to you folks unless it's exactly what you'd have said. And if they don't say what you'd have said on all things, then clearly they can't be trusted to discuss anything.

It's why there's just no point in discussing politics anymore. None of you have anything to actually talk about.
Maybe he shouldn't sidestep the question then? It's a simple question that i'm sure he can answer, he just chooses not to because he knows a large portion of people that are going to be voting for him are idiots.

It is a better answer than 6,000 years though.
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Old 11-20-2012, 02:49 PM   #82
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Maybe he shouldn't sidestep the question then? It's a simple question that i'm sure he can answer, he just chooses not to because he knows a large portion of people that are going to be voting for him are idiots.

It is a better answer than 6,000 years though.
I'm sure you'd love to see him blow apart his chance at advancing through a primary.

What is gained by answering that question?

He's right - it's !@#$ing irrelevant. But because he doesn't give the exact answer you want to a question that doesn't matter, he's clearly a moron.
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Old 11-20-2012, 02:55 PM   #83
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I'm sure you'd love to see him blow apart his chance at advancing through a primary.What is gained by answering that question?
This pretty much says it all. An R answering that he thinks the Earth's age is in the billions of years range = blowing a chance at advancing through the R primaries. Quite a club you got there.
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Old 11-20-2012, 02:56 PM   #84
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Old 11-20-2012, 02:57 PM   #85
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I don't think anyone expects an exact accurate answer. But if someone answers in the 10,000-year-or-under range, you know who you are dealing with.
So, then, what was so outrageous about his comments that we need a thread about it?
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So, then, what was so outrageous about his comments that we need a thread about it?
Absolutely nothing.
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Old 11-20-2012, 03:01 PM   #87
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This pretty much says it all. An R answering that he thinks the Earth's age is in the billions of years range = blowing a chance at advancing through the R primaries. Quite a club you got there.
How would Obama answer the question if he were running for office?
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Old 11-20-2012, 03:01 PM   #88
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So, then, what was so outrageous about his comments that we need a thread about it?
I wouldn't say it is "outrageous," but it is somewhat newsworthy that a popular R, already campaigning for 2016, already appears to be dumbing-down in order to appeal to the anti-science ignorant R base.
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How would Obama answer the question if he were running for office?
I'll ask at the next meeting.
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I love me some Rubio. Here's hoping the hardcore conservative element of the party doesn't kill him off during the primaries.

He's exactly what the Republican Party needs.

Rubio/Haley in 2016!!!
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