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Old 11-20-2012, 05:03 PM  
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UN to Obama Regime: Punish Washington and Colorado for Undermining Global Drug War

Didn't know if this should have had an International Issues prefix or just U.S.—only 'cause of the UN sticking it's nose in our internal affairs. Thought they weren't suppose to do that.


Washington and Colorado approved measures decriminalizing recreational use of marijuana in their states.

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In response, Raymond Yans, head of the UN’s International Narcotics Control Board, has called for Attorney General Eric Holder to ignore the law and continue cracking down on marijuana use and possession. Decriminalizing marijuana use, Yans insists, sends the “wrong message to the rest of the nation and it sends a wrong message abroad."
So are we a sovereign nation that was founded under a system of federalism or are we not? I find this outrageous. Wtf is the UN a wannabe govt in waiting?

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The “war on drugs” didn’t begin with Richard Nixon. It is an outgrowth of a 1961 United Nations document called the Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs, which created the framework for a global drug prohibition jihad.

In that same year, the JFK administration published a proposal called “Freedom from War: The United States Program for General and Complete Disarmament in a Peaceful World,” also known as State Department Document 7277. That proposal, which remains the operational framework for U.S. arms control policy, called for the creation of a nationalized, militarized “homeland security force” – in other words, exactly the kind of overtly militarized law enforcement bodies that have been prosecuting the “war on drugs.”

Origin of the War on Drugs
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Old 11-20-2012, 11:43 PM   #16
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if that is the case, why was the article talking about Holder ignoring the law? Wouldn't he simply be enforcing the federal law?
From BEP's OP: "In response, Raymond Yans, head of the UN’s International Narcotics Control Board, has called for Attorney General Eric Holder to ignore the law and continue cracking down on marijuana use and possession. Decriminalizing marijuana use, Yans insists, sends the 'wrong message to the rest of the nation and it sends a wrong message abroad.'"

I believe that they're encouraging Holder to ignore Colorado law.
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Old 11-20-2012, 11:53 PM   #17
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Is there a more productive one?
How many millions of africans has that August world body sat by and watched slaughtered alone? as they dither and conspire, endless talks that amount to negative nothing in beautiful hotels.

The UN talks while people die crazy deaths everywhere in the world, for every humanitarian gesture i read about it, i read about its corruption and we all see first hand, year in and out, how very little it helps control violence in the world.

When was the last time UN forces truly defended something with sustained effort and blood?... the Balkans to an extent maybe... they observe as the world crumbles around them.

The UN cant get the world to agree on the color of crap.
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Old 11-20-2012, 11:55 PM   #18
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if that is the case, why was the article talking about Holder ignoring the law? Wouldn't he simply be enforcing the federal law?
Because state law conflicts with federal law in this case.
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Old 11-20-2012, 11:58 PM   #19
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How many millions of africans has that August world body sat by and watched slaughtered alone? as they dither and conspire, endless talks that amount to negative nothing in beautiful hotels.

The UN talks while people die crazy deaths everywhere in the world, for every humanitarian gesture i read about it, i read about its corruption and we all see first hand, year in and out, how very little it helps control violence in the world.

When was the last time UN forces truly defended something with sustained effort and blood?... the Balkans to an extent maybe... they observe as the world crumbles around them.

The UN cant get the world to agree on the color of crap.
I take it then that you think they don't have enough power? It's not like the world's policeman. It's a large forum for every sovereign country to come together.
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Old 11-21-2012, 12:01 AM   #20
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I take it...
...up the ass. He meant no such thing, obviously.
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Old 11-21-2012, 12:06 AM   #21
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...up the ass. He meant no such thing, obviously.
Let's talk about the UN and not your sexual appetite. The only way they can stand by and watch evil is because they don't have the authority to do something. If you have a problem with standbys, then you have a problem with lack of authority.
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Old 11-21-2012, 12:14 AM   #22
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Let's talk about the UN and not your sexual appetite. The only way they can stand by and watch evil is because they don't have the authority to do something. If you have a problem with standbys, then you have a problem with lack of authority.
No. There's another possibility. Stretch yourself.
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Old 11-21-2012, 12:16 AM   #23
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No. There's another possibility. Stretch yourself.
Educate me.
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Let's hear it.
**** off.
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Old 11-21-2012, 12:19 AM   #25
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**** off.
You're still hurting over Obama's win. It's destabilizing you.
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Old 11-21-2012, 01:05 AM   #26
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republicans from all wings of the party will be hurting over obama's win for the next four years...

the question is can they get over their butthurt and return to governing in a bipartisan way, without compromise being a dirty word?

and the question is also can the dems stop talking about it and start doing it too (governing, compromising getting the nation's business done, etc.)?

pelosi sounds more intransigent on tax rates than mcconnel or even obama...

i think she and mitch will continue to be obstacles to reaching a deal, but we're apparently stuck with them and will have to muddle through somehow...

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Old 11-21-2012, 01:32 AM   #27
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pelosi sounds more intransigent on tax rates than mcconnel or even obama...
She needs to be marginalized and muzzled, a major drag on democrats.

She's Bachmans even crazier Mom.
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Old 11-21-2012, 02:07 AM   #28
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Most of the morons on this board that play party politics aka left/right paradigm don't understand that our CIA runs the drug war in and out and most of the money profited is laundered through mega corporations and banks. The CIA is simply an asset of the people who run Wall St.
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:05 AM   #29
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Are there federal laws pertaining to marijuana use?
I don't think you understand. Those states are nullifying those federal laws—which they should. It's another check and balance on the federal govt. Real ID was nullified. States just did not implement it.

However, this is not a thread about our federal govt or the supremacy clause. It's about an international body thinking they can stick their noses in our internal affairs. And how too many treaties could result in more erosion.

You're welcome to start your own thread....so that Americans can hash it out and not foreigners in the UN.
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:08 AM   #30
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The problem is that the US has some treaty obligations here... It's the same problem a lot of countries have run into.
I had another thread up regarding treaties with an international body, not another country, erodiing our national sovereignty and most thought it was nothing to be concerned about.
But it is something to be concerned about, for precisely what you see happening here.

There's two arguments I've seen:

1) Treaties become law
2) Treaties that violate our Constitution should not be valid or the parts that do are not to be enforceable.
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