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Old 11-21-2012, 08:24 AM   #3106
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I think Daryls character has been one of the most intriguing... really wondering how they spin it when he see's Merle... he hasnt mentioned his name much since he seemed to have turned a corner to be a better all around person.
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Old 11-21-2012, 11:48 AM   #3107
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I never said you cant die from the bites, I said you dont turn just because you got bit, or got some guts on you. If that were the case than EVERYONE would already be dead, blood in their eyes, in their mouth, etc.
Just because you get bit doesnt mean you die. The fever kills you.
Look through how it works I cant explain it any better

If you ALREADY are infected which Rick clearly tells everyone at the end of season 2 than what would a bite do other than give you an infection?

You only reanimate when you DIE. Rather it be from loss of blood, natural causes, infectious disease etc.

To prove the point Jim was never shown to turn while with the group, he was left to die because at the time they didnt realize once you DID die you turn and didnt want to shoot him.
I think you're saying the same thing others are saying (if you get bit...you are ****ed!) just in a round about way.

you say the fever kills you.....yeah....the fever you got from the bite.
now, that hasn't truly been proved out, but even though Jim wasn't shown as a zombie, it was certainly insinuated that he was turning. the blonds sister had her throat ripped out I believe, so she woulda been dead zombie or not. herschel got his leg chopped off before the infection could spread...againg insinuating that a bite will kill you. at the end of the day.....we've yet to see a bite and a death from that bite....but it's certainly insinuated and would follow the precedent set forth by just about every zombie movie made.
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Old 11-21-2012, 12:50 PM   #3108
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I think you're saying the same thing others are saying (if you get bit...you are ****ed!) just in a round about way.

you say the fever kills you.....yeah....the fever you got from the bite.
now, that hasn't truly been proved out, but even though Jim wasn't shown as a zombie, it was certainly insinuated that he was turning. the blonds sister had her throat ripped out I believe, so she woulda been dead zombie or not. herschel got his leg chopped off before the infection could spread...againg insinuating that a bite will kill you. at the end of the day.....we've yet to see a bite and a death from that bite....but it's certainly insinuated and would follow the precedent set forth by just about every zombie movie made.
The human mouth has more bacteria in it than most animals, and is one of the dirtiest places on the human body. Now, take the filth hole, and fill it with owners own rotting, decaying flesh, plus the rotting and decaying flesh of whatever or whoever they have eaten since they turned to zombies and then let that all stew for days/months.

Basically you get a nasty infection that will end up killing you. The reason they cut off Hershel's leg was to stop that infection before it has time to spread.

Bites do not transmit the zombie virus, but they do transmit disease and infection. At least in the WD Universe.
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Old 11-21-2012, 12:55 PM   #3109
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The human mouth has more bacteria in it than most animals, and is one of the dirtiest places on the human body. Now, take the filth hole, and fill it with owners own rotting, decaying flesh, plus the rotting and decaying flesh of whatever or whoever they have eaten since they turned to zombies and then let that all stew for days/months.

Basically you get a nasty infection that will end up killing you. The reason they cut off Hershel's leg was to stop that infection before it has time to spread.

Bites do not transmit the zombie virus, but they do transmit disease and infection. At least in the WD Universe.
I don't buy that at all. If it were just a run of the mill infection, they could just cleanse the wound and prevent the infection. They have antibiotics. They have alcohol. The chances of him dying from a run of the mill bite (from a decaying corpse or not) is no greater than him contracting an infection from having his freaking leg cut off. The zombie bite appears to cause inevitable death (from what we've seen), and an infection would not be inevitable death.

There is something extra in a zombie bite beyond just standard bacteria from a rotting corpse.
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Old 11-21-2012, 01:15 PM   #3110
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Old 11-21-2012, 01:35 PM   #3111
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I don't buy that at all. If it were just a run of the mill infection, they could just cleanse the wound and prevent the infection. They have antibiotics. They have alcohol. The chances of him dying from a run of the mill bite (from a decaying corpse or not) is no greater than him contracting an infection from having his freaking leg cut off. The zombie bite appears to cause inevitable death (from what we've seen), and an infection would not be inevitable death.

There is something extra in a zombie bite beyond just standard bacteria from a rotting corpse.
seconded.
honestly I'm mucho much golly surprised that this is even something anyone would possibly disagree with!!! seriously!!! all zombie experts agree (this phrase cracks me up and I will use it often)...if you get bit by a zombie, unless the offending bitten limb is cut off IMMEDIATELY....YOU ARE ****ED!
it's just abby-normal to try and argue this very basic zombie fact. GOSH!
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Old 11-21-2012, 01:49 PM   #3112
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seconded.
honestly I'm mucho much golly surprised that this is even something anyone would possibly disagree with!!! seriously!!! all zombie experts agree (this phrase cracks me up and I will use it often)...if you get bit by a zombie, unless the offending bitten limb is cut off IMMEDIATELY....YOU ARE ****ED!
it's just abby-normal to try and argue this very basic zombie fact. GOSH!
that is all.
It doesn't spread the "zombie" virus, cause everyone has that already, and unless smashed brain is the result of death, everyone will turn.

As a "zombie expert" myself. I personally believe the exact opposite of what you guys are saying. And at the time of the bite on Hershel, did they have any medical supplies?

Think of the bite from a zombie like the bite from a komodo dragon. There is so much bacteria, that the victim almost always dies from an infection.
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Old 11-21-2012, 01:52 PM   #3113
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It doesn't spread the "zombie" virus, cause everyone has that already, and unless smashed brain is the result of death, everyone will turn.

As a "zombie expert" myself. I personally believe the exact opposite of what you guys are saying. And at the time of the bite on Hershel, did they have any medical supplies?

Think of the bite from a zombie like the bite from a komodo dragon. There is so much bacteria, that the victim almost always dies from an infection.
The victim of a komodo dragon bite won't die from an infection if it's treated even marginally. A wildebeest in the wild will certainly die, though. That's because a wildebeest doesn't know things like: clean the wound, take antibiotics, get rest, etc...

And yes, they had medical supplies, I believe. They were saving them for Lori's birth. They were also in a prison and knew there was an infirmary (with supplies) somewhere nearby. If it was as simple as an infection (even a super infection), I think they'd bet on finding some antibiotics and cleaning the wound rather than, literally, cutting off his leg to spite his face.

Edit: I've also found out while researching this, that recent research shows that komodo dragons actually are VENOMOUS, not just toxic due to bacteria.
http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/news/2...th-snake-venom
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Old 11-21-2012, 01:59 PM   #3114
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The victim of a komodo dragon bite won't die from an infection if it's treated even marginally. A wildebeest in the wild will certainly die, though. That's because a wildebeest doesn't know things like: clean the wound, take antibiotics, get rest, etc...

And yes, they had medical supplies, I believe. They were saving them for Lori's birth. They were also in a prison and knew there was an infirmary (with supplies) somewhere nearby. If it was as simple as an infection (even a super infection), I think they'd bet on finding some antibiotics and cleaning the wound rather than, literally, cutting off his leg to spite his face.

Edit: I've also found out while researching this, that recent research shows that komodo dragons actually are VENOMOUS, not just toxic due to bacteria.
http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/news/2...th-snake-venom

It's an agree to disagree then. Since both sides don't really have any evidence short of waiting for the screenwriters to come out and blatantly say "Zombie bites kill because.....X".

In any event, it's still fun speculating.
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By everyone being infected I take it as the disease is idle in a living person. Upon death the "virus" activates. Being bitten puts that "actives" virus into your bloodstream causing whatever it is to in a sense "wake up" and kill you. The fever and effects leading up to death is your immune system fighting that now active disease.
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You all just look way into it. i just shut down my brain and enjoy it for what the show is a drama thriller. If i tried to think of shit in ways that its being brought up in here, i wouldnt be able to enjoy any damn thing on tv or in the movies. lol

You can catch big time errors in anything and i often do, but i just eh. The only show/tv in recent memory that shut me off by being completely ****ing stupid is when twilight first came out and the vampires sparkled in the sun. haha Once iseen that i was like **** this. Its just made for women pure and simple.

anyways, it was a solid episode. i fear maggy is going to get the michonnne treatment. I wonder how far they go with the comic storyline cause it gets ****ing crazy.
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You all just look way into it. i just shut down my brain and enjoy it for what the show is a drama thriller. If i tried to think of shit in ways that its being brought up in here, i wouldnt be able to enjoy any damn thing on tv or in the movies. lol

You can catch big time errors in anything and i often do, but i just eh. The only show/tv in recent memory that shut me off by being completely ****ing stupid is when twilight first came out and the vampires sparkled in the sun. haha Once iseen that i was like **** this. Its just made for women pure and simple.

anyways, it was a solid episode. i fear maggy is going to get the michonnne treatment. I wonder how far they go with the comic storyline cause it gets ****ing crazy.
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I don't buy that at all. If it were just a run of the mill infection, they could just cleanse the wound and prevent the infection. They have antibiotics. They have alcohol. The chances of him dying from a run of the mill bite (from a decaying corpse or not) is no greater than him contracting an infection from having his freaking leg cut off. The zombie bite appears to cause inevitable death (from what we've seen), and an infection would not be inevitable death.

There is something extra in a zombie bite beyond just standard bacteria from a rotting corpse.
I think if we are extending reality to believe that the dead reanimate we could extend it to believe that their bite causes an infection that kills you. It doesn't matter what the cause of infection is, because the result is still the same. To each their own. Maybe they will explain later, but in any case, this discussion has been quite enjoyable.
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When did this thread start including spoilers from the comics? I thought it was the opposite before.

Or does the thread title mean spoilers from the TV show? Rather confusing (especially because another TV show Game of Thrones has one thread here with spoilers from those books and one without).
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