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Old 10-14-2012, 10:20 PM  
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Who were the clowns that claimed RGIII isn't that good?

Seriously, I know there were a handful or so geniuses on here that didn't care for Robert's game.

I might trade our entire draft for the guy.
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Old 11-23-2012, 08:52 AM   #151
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Yeah I retracted that after someone else threw that out.

RGIII and Luck are def worth the three first rounders we've used the last three years.

On the flip side of that, I wonder how good Baldwin could be in a place where the QB could actually get him the football.
Until he can learn to run a route properly, it doesn't matter who the QB is.
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Old 11-23-2012, 08:59 AM   #152
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Great attitude. Kid has heart, desire, and talent. He's gonna be a stud at the next level. AS LONG AS HE HAS GOOD COACHES. That can't be stressed enough. There are some busts, who busted due to no real fault of their own.

I'm sure as **** not defending Matt Casshole, but the dude was set up for failure the second he got here. When you have someone who is already not a world beater, he has to be in the right system, with the right coaches, and the right scheme to even have a chance of success. Matt never had that here.

I hope Geno will, although clearly the talent level is light years ahead. So it's not like he requires the same things Matt Cassel did. I think most of you will pick up what I'm laying down.
Norv turner for oc. Maybe even Sean Ryan from the giants. Or pat shurmur. Lots of real nice oc candidates, no matter who we draft.

Of course, if pioli is in charge, we can expect to see josh mcdaniels as head coach / oc. Fml.
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Old 11-23-2012, 09:03 AM   #153
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honestly, I think that race has a lot to do with it.
Race as in stereotype, yes. Racism not so much..from me anyway.

I think it is more of the old argument that Doug Campbell is the only black QB to win a SB and so on. The "numbers" show that a black QB will not have a SB winning successful career.
We all know that will change as there are more and more black QBs getting chances.
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Old 11-23-2012, 09:16 AM   #154
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Last year was a very rare draft. It wasn't who's good and who sucks there were two completely different QB's who were both legit.

The Colts took the guy most like the guy that left.

The Skins took the guy best suited to what they wanted to run in their offense.

I will agree that a lot of fans thought less of RGIII because they figured Black QB that can run = great athlete but dumb as hell.

Nein.

RGIII is extremely intelligent and could run any offense out there...
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Old 11-23-2012, 09:24 AM   #155
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I would have traded the whole ****ing Draft for Luck or RG3 then and would do it today. Now that we are going to have a top 2 pick I don't have unwavering confidence in any of them. The life of a ****ing Chiefs fan
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Old 11-23-2012, 09:26 AM   #156
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I would have traded the whole ****ing Draft for Luck or RG3 then and would do it today. Now that we are going to have a top 2 pick I don't have unwavering confidence in any of them.
This.

But I'm willing to believe in something different.

We tried Pioli and it didn't work.

It happens. Lamar had failures as well.

But identify them, end them, and move forward...
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Old 11-23-2012, 09:28 AM   #157
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I'd give up 3 firsts for him. We pick busts with our first rounders anyway. We wouldn't be losing anything.
I don't know about you, but I'd give up Tyson Jackson, Glenn Dorsey, Dontari Poe and Jonathan Baldwin for RG3. Those 4 first round draft picks are turds.
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Old 11-23-2012, 09:28 AM   #158
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Tannehill isn't a franchise QB
You sir are a moron. We should of traded up and gotten Tannehill.
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Old 11-23-2012, 09:28 AM   #159
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I never thought RGIII would be this good. He's been every impressive. That said, Cam Newton was impressive last year and sucks this year, so the jury is still going to be out for a while.
there is a HUGE difference between the two

a lot of people thought Cam Newton would be a bust, or not as good as what he did his rookie year.

Cam Newton came back to reality to what many expected of him this year. It also doesnt help Cam that he has no talent and garbage coaching around him.

RG3 does too, but he also has the Rat, the mini Rat, and an owner that will spend whatever it takes to put talent around RG3 in the coming years.

Cam Newton has an owner giving 40 million to a RB that does nothing, 100 million to an overrated DE, etc.

Cam Newton was also a nobody besides that big year he came out, and was caught in a scandal at Auburn, and had that shit with his dad being his agent or whatever the hell. There was tons of red flags. RG3 was an every 10 years type of class player.
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You sir are a moron. We should of traded up and gotten Tannehill.
I'm still not a fan...
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Old 11-23-2012, 09:32 AM   #161
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I'm still not a fan...
Tannehill is actually pretty good and is probably the barometer for the type of season whatever QB we draft in round 1 will have.

He is more of the type of production you get from a rookie QB in his first year. Some good, some bad, some ugly, tons of potential, etc.
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Old 11-23-2012, 09:33 AM   #162
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You sir are a moron. We should of traded up and gotten Tannehill.
How do we know this? What has he done to prove this? Didn't like the pick staying in place let alone on a trade up.
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Old 11-23-2012, 09:36 AM   #163
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I'm still not a fan...
What you just asking to be called a moron today?

Come on Davone Bess is their best WR down there. Their OL is shit. Reggie Bush is their RB. He has looked pretty good with what I have seen of him especially considering what is around him.
And if it takes you or anyone else having to see to believe you will always be late to the party and miss out.
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I take it some of you guys don't watch many of the games or sportscenter or Total Access or NFL Live.
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Old 11-23-2012, 09:43 AM   #165
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I don't read every thread, but honestly, I don't get the racism accusations against the posters here. I've seen huge props given out to RGIII, Cam and Gino. I've seen some negative comments, but they were all performance based. Can the accuser(s) here (Bump) site some examples of racist comments against black QBs? I hope this accusation is NOT based strictly on performance comments. If that's the case, then Matt Cassel, Brady Quinn and Scott Pioli must all be black.
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