Home Mail MemberMap Chat (0) Wallpapers
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > The Lounge > D.C.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-24-2012, 10:33 AM  
BigRedChief BigRedChief is offline
Brainwashed
 
BigRedChief's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Swims with fishes
Casino cash: $291968
Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood goes down dictatorship path.

Grant themselves sweeping powers and give the Islamist s the power to write the constitution. Riots break out in multiple cities.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/11...#ixzz2DA59xzWv

CAIRO Egypt's highest body of judges slammed on Saturday a recent decision by the president to grant himself near-absolute power, calling the move an "unprecedented assault" on the judiciary.

In a statement carried on Egypt's official MENA news agency, the Supreme Judicial Council condemned this week's declaration by President Mohammed Morsi placing his decrees above judicial review until a new constitution and parliament is in place, several months if not more in the future.
Their condemnation of the president's edicts are the latest blow to Morsi, whose decision Thursday set off a firestorm of controversy and prompted tens of thousands of people to take to the streets in nationwide protests Friday.
Through their statement, the judges join a widening list of leaders and activists from Egypt's political factions, including some Islamists, who have denounced the decree.

The Supreme Judicial Council is packed with judges appointed by former President Hosni Mubarak. It regulates judicial promotions and is chaired by the head of the Court of Cassation.

Their move reflects a broad sense of anger within the judiciary. Some judges' groups and prosecutors have already announced partial strikes to protest Morsi's decree.

Morsi has accused pro-Mubarak elements in the judiciary of blocking political progress. In the last year, courts have dissolved the lower house of parliament as well as the first panel drafting the constitution, both led by his Muslim Brotherhood group.

The edicts Morsi issued mean that no judicial body can dissolve the upper house of parliament or the current assembly writing the new constitution, which are also both led by the Brotherhood. Supporters of Morsi feared that court might in fact dissolve one of these bodies, further postponing Egypt's transition under the aegis of a new constitution.

They say Morsi has a mandate to guide this process as Egypt's first freely elected president, having defeated one of Mubarak's former prime ministers this summer in a closely contested election.

The judges' council's stand against the president sets the ground for an uneasy alliance between former regime officials and activist groups that helped topple Mubarak's regime and have in the past derided those officials as "felool," or remnants.

The presidents' opponents nonetheless see the judiciary as the only remaining civilian branch of government with a degree of independence, since Morsi already holds executive power and as well as legislative authority due to the dissolution of parliament.

The judges released their statement following an emergency meeting Saturday. They said Morsi's decision is an "unprecedented assault on the judiciary and it rulings" and called on the president to "distance himself from the declaration and all things that touch judicial authority, its specifications or interference in its members or its rulings."
Posts: 41,483
BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2012, 10:29 AM   #31
alanm alanm is offline
Incognito
 
alanm's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Nebraska/Wyoming/Colorado
Casino cash: $61389
Quote:
Originally Posted by HonestChieffan View Post
Im sure Obama will cut off the foreign aid if the MB gets really going, don't you? Fanatical Islam and sharia law, human rights folks will get Obama to take away US support. What do you think?
I've seen this game before. He'll throw more money at them hoping to appease them.
Posts: 29,712
alanm Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.alanm Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.alanm Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.alanm Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.alanm Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.alanm Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.alanm Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.alanm Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.alanm Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.alanm Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.alanm Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2012, 10:59 AM   #32
HonestChieffan HonestChieffan is offline
Country Santa Year Around
 
HonestChieffan's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: In the Country in MO
Casino cash: $1256057
Quote:
Originally Posted by alanm View Post
I've seen this game before. He'll throw more money at them hoping to appease them.
So we will reward behavior that is counter to our intetests? This is confusing. Unless what is happening is what the administration supports. In that case Obama should get credit for this success and we would then be rewarding our good friends for their progress.

Perhaps we are looking at this wrong?
__________________
Frazod to KC Nitwit..."Hey, I saw a picture of some dumpy bitch with a horrible ****tarded giant back tattoo and couldn't help but think of you." Simple, Pure, Perfect. 7/31/2013

Dave Lane: "I have donated more money to people in my life as an atheist that most churches ever will."

Come home to Jesus Dave. Come home.
Posts: 26,856
HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2012, 01:54 PM   #33
patteeu patteeu is offline
The 23rd Pillar
 
patteeu's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2002
Casino cash: $463306
Compare and contrast:

Egyptian people rise up against a dictator who served US interests well for several decades --> Obama administration tells him to GTFO

vs

Egyptian people rise up against a dictator whose sympathies lie with anti-western Islamists --> Obama administration tells protestors to stay calm and resolve their differences peacefully through dialogue.
__________________


"Well, it is one thing for Bill Clinton to say, I feel your pain. It is another thing for Barack Obama to say I feel your pain that I have caused." - George Will
Posts: 74,232
patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2012, 02:29 PM   #34
BigRedChief BigRedChief is offline
Brainwashed
 
BigRedChief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Swims with fishes
Casino cash: $291968
Quote:
Originally Posted by patteeu View Post
Compare and contrast:

Egyptian people rise up against a dictator who served US interests well for several decades --> Obama administration tells him to GTFO

vs

Egyptian people rise up against a dictator whose sympathies lie with anti-western Islamists --> Obama administration tells protestors to stay calm and resolve their differences peacefully through dialogue.
yeah, lets help keep the dictator in power. Help him kill people wanting democratic elections?
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris616 View Post
There is a place inside man where his life can be terminated on voice command. Its the fail safe device meant to be used at the end of times.
Posts: 41,483
BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2012, 02:38 PM   #35
patteeu patteeu is offline
The 23rd Pillar
 
patteeu's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2002
Casino cash: $463306
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigRedChief View Post
yeah, lets help keep the dictator in power. Help him kill people wanting democratic elections?
You're starting to sound like Kotter.

1. I've never suggested that we should have helped kill anyone just for wanting democratic elections.

2. We're helping to keep a dictator in power right now. We're asking pro-democracy demonstrators to calm down instead of telling the dictator to step down. How can your blinders be so effective that you've missed that?
__________________


"Well, it is one thing for Bill Clinton to say, I feel your pain. It is another thing for Barack Obama to say I feel your pain that I have caused." - George Will
Posts: 74,232
patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2012, 02:48 PM   #36
Pawnmower Pawnmower is offline
MVP
 
Pawnmower's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Northern California
Casino cash: $100
Quote:
Originally Posted by HonestChieffan View Post
Im sure Obama will cut off the foreign aid if the MB gets really going, don't you?
Gets really going? You mean like winning the presidency AND control of their congress?


They are going...strong.


The question is will the Egyptian people tolerate a theocracy , and the MB pushing them around when the MB sat on the sidelines during the revolution. (Or for how long will they tolerate this?)

As to your question, I think the money will flow as long as Egypt keeps their peace deal with Israel.
__________________
**** Left CP 9-4-2013 **** Mod Harassment, requested by a more "in" user
Posts: 13,177
Pawnmower < CasselPawnmower < CasselPawnmower < CasselPawnmower < CasselPawnmower < CasselPawnmower < CasselPawnmower < CasselPawnmower < CasselPawnmower < CasselPawnmower < CasselPawnmower < Cassel
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2012, 08:13 AM   #37
Direckshun Direckshun is offline
Black for Palestine
 
Direckshun's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Springpatch
Casino cash: $1203135
It appears now that these powers will not hold.

The legal system is resisting it, but mainly the military that still runs the country is deeply distrustful of him.
__________________
Posts: 43,009
Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2012, 08:21 AM   #38
Radar Chief Radar Chief is offline
Vroooom.
 
Radar Chief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: In the box.
Casino cash: $103791
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigRedChief View Post
yeah, lets help keep the dictator in power. Help him kill people wanting democratic elections?
The point.
Your head.
__________________
Like "Cool Hand" Luke I'm busting rocks.

__/|_/[___]
|/ \\_| ---OllllO
_( ))~-( ))-0--))
Posts: 21,910
Radar Chief is obviously part of the inner Circle.Radar Chief is obviously part of the inner Circle.Radar Chief is obviously part of the inner Circle.Radar Chief is obviously part of the inner Circle.Radar Chief is obviously part of the inner Circle.Radar Chief is obviously part of the inner Circle.Radar Chief is obviously part of the inner Circle.Radar Chief is obviously part of the inner Circle.Radar Chief is obviously part of the inner Circle.Radar Chief is obviously part of the inner Circle.Radar Chief is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2012, 09:04 AM   #39
Amnorix Amnorix is offline
In BB I trust
 
Amnorix's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2003
Location: Boston, Mass.
Casino cash: $209019
Quote:
Originally Posted by patteeu View Post
Compare and contrast:

Egyptian people rise up against a dictator who served US interests well for several decades --> Obama administration tells him to GTFO

vs

Egyptian people rise up against a dictator whose sympathies lie with anti-western Islamists --> Obama administration tells protestors to stay calm and resolve their differences peacefully through dialogue.

Do you believe Obama is a Kenyan-born Muslim as well?
__________________
"I love signature blocks on the Internet. I get to put whatever the hell I want in quotes, pick a pretend author, and bang, it's like he really said it." George Washington
Posts: 32,519
Amnorix has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Amnorix has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Amnorix has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Amnorix has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Amnorix has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Amnorix has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Amnorix has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Amnorix has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Amnorix has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Amnorix has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Amnorix has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2012, 11:34 AM   #40
patteeu patteeu is offline
The 23rd Pillar
 
patteeu's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2002
Casino cash: $463306
Quote:
Originally Posted by Amnorix View Post
Do you believe Obama is a Kenyan-born Muslim as well?
No. He's probably a atheistic, leftist who was born in Hawaii and who sympathizes with the people of the world that he thinks have been oppressed by western colonialism and neo-colonialism (including the oppression of palestinians by the Israelis, most relevantly). How about you?

And do you have a relevant response to the post you quoted.
__________________


"Well, it is one thing for Bill Clinton to say, I feel your pain. It is another thing for Barack Obama to say I feel your pain that I have caused." - George Will

Last edited by patteeu; 11-26-2012 at 11:54 AM..
Posts: 74,232
patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2012, 12:24 PM   #41
ROYC75 ROYC75 is online now
Time For Your Wake Up Call !!!
 
ROYC75's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Barn Yard
Casino cash: $10078420
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigRedChief View Post
So, what should we have done differently?
Sent Obama & Biden on a secret mission to rule Egypt.
Posts: 24,440
ROYC75 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.ROYC75 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.ROYC75 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.ROYC75 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.ROYC75 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.ROYC75 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.ROYC75 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.ROYC75 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.ROYC75 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.ROYC75 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.ROYC75 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2012, 12:24 PM   #42
Iowanian Iowanian is offline
Assemble
 
Iowanian's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: The Jolly Barnyard
Casino cash: $428363
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigRedChief View Post
That is just general statements. What statements, assurances would you like to have seen made? and to whom?

Aid to who? and what aid?
If you and the rest of the Obama fans are going to credit him with solving global warming every time he farts, you're going to have to accept it when he steps on his pickle too.


Obama was going to fix Egypt...but then he got high.
__________________
"Silence is Golden. Duct Tape is silver"
Posts: 49,049
Iowanian is obviously part of the inner Circle.Iowanian is obviously part of the inner Circle.Iowanian is obviously part of the inner Circle.Iowanian is obviously part of the inner Circle.Iowanian is obviously part of the inner Circle.Iowanian is obviously part of the inner Circle.Iowanian is obviously part of the inner Circle.Iowanian is obviously part of the inner Circle.Iowanian is obviously part of the inner Circle.Iowanian is obviously part of the inner Circle.Iowanian is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2012, 12:43 PM   #43
go bowe go bowe is offline
bye bye bo...
 
go bowe's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: independence
Casino cash: $587057
just curious, how would YOU have "fixed egypt"?
Posts: 29,227
go bowe 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.go bowe 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.go bowe 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.go bowe 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.go bowe 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.go bowe 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.go bowe 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.go bowe 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.go bowe 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.go bowe 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.go bowe 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2012, 12:49 PM   #44
Direckshun Direckshun is offline
Black for Palestine
 
Direckshun's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Springpatch
Casino cash: $1203135
There really wasn't much a responsible US foreign policy could do in Egypt, or really any of these countries during their popular uprisings, other than talk to the dictators behind closed doors about exercising restraint or stepping down, and of course making sure Americans are protected. Obama did all of these in Egypt.

It seems to me that the other option in Egypt was to either go Full Iran, where we just keep our distance, or go Full Bahrain, which is where we arm those in power to further brutalize their people until they give up (I wrote about that here).

I think we handled Egypt as well as can be expected. I haven't heard much in the way of effective rebuttals to that, just blanket criticism from the usual suspects and some of the usual nonspecific pablum.
__________________
Posts: 43,009
Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2012, 12:54 PM   #45
patteeu patteeu is offline
The 23rd Pillar
 
patteeu's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2002
Casino cash: $463306
Quote:
Originally Posted by Direckshun View Post
There really wasn't much a responsible US foreign policy could do in Egypt, or really any of these countries during their popular uprisings, other than talk to the dictators behind closed doors about exercising restraint or stepping down, and of course making sure Americans are protected. Obama did all of these in Egypt.

It seems to me that the other option in Egypt was to either go Full Iran, where we just keep our distance, or go Full Bahrain, which is where we arm those in power to further brutalize their people until they give up (I wrote about that here).

I think we handled Egypt as well as can be expected. I haven't heard much in the way of effective rebuttals to that, just blanket criticism from the usual suspects and some of the usual nonspecific pablum.
You left out an infinite number of other options. All we know for sure is that the option selected by Obama led to what is currently a MB dictatorship. Maybe he'll be able to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat, but I'm not even sure he sees victory the same way pro-Americans do.

Oh, and btw, wrt "nonspecific pablum": scoreboard.
__________________


"Well, it is one thing for Bill Clinton to say, I feel your pain. It is another thing for Barack Obama to say I feel your pain that I have caused." - George Will
Posts: 74,232
patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.patteeu is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:05 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.