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Old 11-24-2012, 04:48 AM  
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Notice how many gods you reject.

Proof #28 - Notice how many gods you reject

There are literally thousands of religions being practiced today. Here are 20 of the most popular, along with an estimate of the number of followers:

Christianity: 2.1 billion
Islam: 1.3 billion
Hinduism: 900 million
Chinese traditional religion: 394 million
Buddhism: 376 million
African Traditional & Diasporic: 100 million
Sikhism: 23 million
Juche: 19 million
Spiritism: 15 million
Judaism: 14 million
Baha'i: 7 million
Jainism: 4.2 million
Shinto: 4 million
Cao Dai: 4 million
Zoroastrianism: 2.6 million
Tenrikyo: 2 million
Neo-Paganism: 1 million
Unitarian-Universalism: 800 thousand
Rastafarianism: 600 thousand
Scientology: 500 thousand

[Source: Encyclopedia Britannica]

If you believe in God, you have chosen to reject Allah, Vishnu, Budda, Waheguru and all of the thousands of other gods that other people worship today. It is quite likely that you rejected these other gods without ever looking into their religions or reading their books. You simply absorbed the dominant faith in your home or in the society you grew up in.

In the same way, the followers of all these other religions have chosen to reject God. You think their gods are imaginary, and they think your God is imaginary.

In other words, each religious person on earth today arbitrarily rejects thousands of gods as imaginary, many of which he/she has never even heard of, and arbitrarily chooses to "believe" in one of them.

The following quote from Stephen F. Roberts sums up the situation very nicely:

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"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."

A rational person rejects all human gods equally, because all of them are equally imaginary.

How do we know that they are imaginary? Simply imagine that one of them is real.

If one of these thousands of gods were actually real, then his followers would be experiencing real, undeniable benefits. These benefits would be obvious to everyone. The followers of a true god would pray, and their prayers would be answered. The followers of a true god would therefore live longer, have fewer diseases, have lots more money, etc.

There would be thousands of statistical markers surrounding the followers of a true god.

Everyone would notice all of these benefits, and they would gravitate toward this true god. And thus, over the course of several centuries, everyone would be aligned on the one true god. All the other false gods would have fallen by the wayside long ago, and there would be only one religion under the one true god.

When we look at our world today, we see nothing like that. There are two billion Christians AND there are more than one billion Muslims, and their religions are mutually exclusive. There are thousands of other religions. When you analyze any of them, they all show a remarkable similarity -- there is zero evidence that any of these gods exist.
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Old 11-27-2012, 06:14 PM   #346
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washington's letter...look it up.
I have and you are more than welcome to post it. I am on a mobile device right now. Also how about answering my question~
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Old 11-27-2012, 06:16 PM   #347
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I have and you are more than welcome to post it. I am on a mobile device right now. Also how about answering my question~
what's the point of your question?
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Old 11-27-2012, 06:17 PM   #348
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I'm confused about the difference between the unveiling and the apocalypse.
in what way??

what do you think apocalypse means?
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Old 11-27-2012, 06:21 PM   #349
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what's the point of your question?
The point is that one of the amazing and wonderful things about our country is everyone's beliefs are protected. I take great pride if the fact no persons beliefs are forced by our government on anyone else~
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Old 11-27-2012, 06:27 PM   #350
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in what way??

what do you think apocalypse means?
I guess I do not. I would appreciate your interpretation.
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Old 11-27-2012, 06:31 PM   #351
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I guess I do not. I would appreciate your interpretation.
you're a smart guy ..kind of hard to believe.
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Old 11-27-2012, 06:32 PM   #352
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The point is that one of the amazing and wonderful things about our country is everyone's beliefs are protected. I take great pride if the fact no persons beliefs are forced by our government on anyone else~
I thought that was obvious...protected from the government, not by the governemnt...our inalienble rights don't come from man.
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Old 11-27-2012, 06:38 PM   #353
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you're a smart guy ..kind of hard to believe.
Again, I would like your interpretation. I mean no harm. I'm just curious.
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Old 11-27-2012, 06:42 PM   #354
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you have an amnendment that keeps government from interfering with worship and religion. not to keep religion out of the state, but to keep the STATE out of relgion...that's why they are worded "shall not"

I'm talking God, not a man made denomination, which the founders knew they had no right to proclaim for the country.... This is WHY different denominations, through Jefferson, were allowed to sahre the Capitol bulidng for services. This is WHY the first States Consttitutions include GOD. This is also why GOD was included in the charters and emblems of the first institutions of higher learning...Keep ignoring the Washinton monument, the Liberty Bell and the Jefferson Memorial...it conflicts with the agenda.

I understand why you keep cherrypicking my posts, I also already told you why this is happening...you just keep playing the part. ..but it's cool man...it HAS to go this way.
No, stevieray, you're dead wrong. The part that states,"...or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,..." keeps the State out of the Church. The first part keeps the Church out of the State. Both are necessary for a free society.

You're fighting another losing battle by referencing individual state constitutions. They were deeply flawed. Go read the original Constitution of Virginia.

No agenda, stevieray. Other than pointing out that this isn't and never has been a Christian nation. Your religious beliefs are yours and have no place in policy or law. I'm glad that you are free to worship. I'm glad that I did what I could do to help defend this nation so that people like yourself are free to worship as they choose. But that doesn't mean that I have to allow people like yourself to bastardize the Constitution, and it doesn't mean that I can't speak out when people like yourself try to force your religious beliefs on the rest of the country.

When it comes to social issues that deny citizens in their "pursuit of happiness", I'll vote against you every time. "Because God said so" isn't a good enough reason for a substantial law to exist. Other than that; de minimis non curat lex.
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Old 11-27-2012, 06:43 PM   #355
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I thought that was obvious...protected from the government, not by the governemnt...our inalienble rights don't come from man.
That is another discussion. I am glad you agree this nation is not founded on or stands for any single religion~
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Old 11-27-2012, 06:43 PM   #356
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...proves nothing about being in a relationship with God.
Sure, if you don't read it.
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Other than pointing out that this isn't and never has been a Christian nation.
funny how you guys always come back to Christ, when that's never been the argument.
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funny how you guys always come back to Christ, when that's never been the argument.
It's always the argument with you. You refuse to separate your religious beliefs from your opinions on anything.
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No, stevieray, you're dead wrong. The part that states,"...or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,..." keeps the State out of the Church. The first part keeps the Church out of the State. Both are necessary for a free society.

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ya, religion, not God.
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It's always the argument with you.
Incorrect...that would be you.
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