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Old 11-29-2012, 07:14 AM   #5416
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Um, your link mentions profit not revenue. Only a fool would think KU doesn't rank in the top 100 basketball revenue producers, lol


Second, the links also show KU leads the Big 12 in hoops revenue the past few years reported. No surprise to those with brains


Third, Forbes ranks KU 3rd in the nation among most valuable hoops programs earning over $17M in annual profit.
If you list the top 100 revenue producing football and basketball programs together, KU BB isn't in the top 100. Not surprisingly, KU fans are trying to focus on basketball only despite the fact that a top 20 revenue producing basketball program is the equivalent of a shitty football program in terms of revenue.
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Old 11-29-2012, 07:20 AM   #5417
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If you list the top 100 revenue producing football and basketball programs together, KU BB isn't in the top 100. Not surprisingly, KU fans are trying to focus on basketball only despite the fact that a top 20 revenue producing basketball program is the equivalent of a shitty football program in terms of revenue.

Completely false, the link showed proft not revenue. do you know the difference because apparently you are confused. besides, there are not nearly 100 football programs that generate more revenue than KU hoops. Also, KU ranked 10th in total athletic revenues in 2008 the year they won it all, and normally ranks around 30 and that's not possible if your point was close to being correct
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Old 11-29-2012, 08:01 AM   #5418
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Completely false, the link showed proft not revenue. do you know the difference because apparently you are confused. besides, there are not nearly 100 football programs that generate more revenue than KU hoops. Also, KU ranked 10th in total athletic revenues in 2008 the year they won it all, and normally ranks around 30 and that's not possible if your point was close to being correct
Don't try to educate the Mizzou fan base, its not in their nature.
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Old 11-29-2012, 08:54 AM   #5419
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Don't try to educate the Mizzou fan base, its not in their nature.
But don't they teach students how revenue and profit are different concepts? I would think so but this thread is kinda scary, the lack of knowledge
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Old 11-29-2012, 08:55 AM   #5420
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:01 AM   #5421
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Completely false, the link showed proft not revenue. do you know the difference because apparently you are confused. besides, there are not nearly 100 football programs that generate more revenue than KU hoops. Also, KU ranked 10th in total athletic revenues in 2008 the year they won it all, and normally ranks around 30 and that's not possible if your point was close to being correct
http://businessofcollegesports.com/2...rgest-profits/

It's all laid out in black and white at this link.

If you want to see revenue, it's there. If you want to see profit, there you go.

Kansas basketball is the 73rd most profitable program, and their football ranks 116th.

If you want revenue, football ranks 59th, and basketball ranks 67th.

I'll accept your apologies only if I feel they are sincere.
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Colon is 0.7 WAR or 5M in value. He makes 500k. Getting pretty close, and since he's producing war each of the next 4 years of club control, he's fair value for Upton straight up. More than fair actually.
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:22 AM   #5422
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That is false. I agree regarding Duke, but FSU is clearly the most valuable school in the conference. Its just a grudge and a quirk of history with the SEC and the B1G's peculiarities keeping them out of those two conferences.
Just did a little research. UNC has the highest athletic budget in the ACC for FY 2012. (Information for the for private schools isn't public record, but it's safe to assume that Duke, Wake, BC, and Miami wouldn't be close.)

Of the eight public universities, FSU ranks sixth, and NC State is set to pass them in the next year or two based on the current trends of both schools. North Carolina currently has a budget 25% higher than FSU.
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:31 AM   #5423
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Old 11-29-2012, 12:26 PM   #5425
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Um, your link mentions profit not revenue. Only a fool would think KU doesn't rank in the top 100 basketball revenue producers, lol


Second, the links also show KU leads the Big 12 in hoops revenue the past few years reported. No surprise to those with brains


Third, Forbes ranks KU 3rd in the nation among most valuable hoops programs earning over $17M in annual profit.
my link lists revenue, expense, and profit in 3 columns.

And KU still isn't listed. Don't know why, not my list, but it is based on legal reports filed with the DOEd.
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It's all laid out in black and white at this link.

If you want to see revenue, it's there. If you want to see profit, there you go.

Kansas basketball is the 73rd most profitable program, and their football ranks 116th.

If you want revenue, football ranks 59th, and basketball ranks 67th.

I'll accept your apologies only if I feel they are sincere.


You will have to explain to me how your link gets 32m out of the two sports when their overall revenue is $72m. Probably because that data is incomplete (it does not include the $20m that hoops generates from the PSL or donation program)


When you add that to the $17m in regular revenue, you get a massive number which provides Forbes the basis of their huge profit number for KU basketball. It's a massive money machine with virtually no expenses and that is why KU has generated $100m more than Mizzou past 5 -6 years. That's not a typo-that's straight from those same DOE reports.


MU fled South because they were so far below Ku, Arky and Il in revenue. They were desperate
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MU fled South because they were so far below Ku, Arky and Il in revenue. They were desperate
No, they left because of a grass-roots movement from Missouri fans and donors lobbying the curators. Left on their own, Deaton and the powers that be were more than likely not going anywhere.
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You will have to explain to me how your link gets 32m out of the two sports when their overall revenue is $72m. Probably because that data is incomplete (it does not include the $20m that hoops generates from the PSL or donation program)


When you add that to the $17m in regular revenue, you get a massive number which provides Forbes the basis of their huge profit number for KU basketball. It's a massive money machine with virtually no expenses and that is why KU has generated $100m more than Mizzou past 5 -6 years. That's not a typo-that's straight from those same DOE reports.


MU fled South because they were so far below Ku, Arky and Il in revenue. They were desperate
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Take it for what its worth. Tuxedo Yoda doesn't talk much, and is seen as more credible (or less-useless, depending on how you view insiders) than most "insiders".

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Tuxedo Yoda ‏@TuxedoYoda (part 1) Austin source told me B12 receiving push-back from other conferences over B12 only having to split its future playoff $ 10 ways...

Tuxedo Yoda ‏@TuxedoYoda (part 2) ...Bowlsby & Dodds made it clear they will expand when it suits them. If someone tries to force the B12's hand, the B12 will go...

Tuxedo Yoda ‏@TuxedoYoda (part 3)...balls to the wall to say that only conference champions can be in the 4 team playoff - no more independents.
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Take it for what its worth. Tuxedo Yoda doesn't talk much, and is seen as more credible (or less-useless, depending on how you view insiders) than most "insiders".


The B12 doesn't have the clout to make those demands. They have less teams and don't have a conference championship game. There's no way in hell that the SEC will agree to any playoff that only allows conf. champs in when SEC teams 2-4 or more are often better than all the other conference champions.
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