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Old 08-31-2012, 06:24 PM  
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Why people laugh at Creationists

Taking a lead from Killer Clown I thought I'd create a alternative thread to post some videos I like...

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Here's the Kent Hovind Theory:



"Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it.
Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many.
Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books.
Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders.
Do not believe in traditions simply because they have been handed down for many generations.
But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it."

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Old 11-11-2012, 07:25 AM   #871
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Old 11-11-2012, 07:46 AM   #872
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Science does not have to contradict faith, only a literal interpretation of the bible, which is like a storybook for children in explaining creation. After all the initial readers of the word were more than 1500 years from discovering that the Earth was not flat, the Earth was not the center of the universe, and there's this thing called gravity.

I don't have to believe a literal interpretation of the bible to have faith in God. What's wrong with saying God created everything and he did it in a manner consistent with how science explains it? What's wrong with pointing out that God explained it all in parables full of symbolism?

The easiest way to prove the literal bible wrong is if the universe was created just 10,000 years ago then we wouldn't be able to see stars that are more than 10,000 light years away as their light would not have reached us yet. I had a creationist try to explain that and my head was about ready to explode.
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Old 11-11-2012, 08:03 AM   #873
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Creation is NOT a theory, to call it that is to misunderstand the definition of a theory completely. At best its a hypothesis but really it's barely a cogent thought.
"Cogent thought?" I understand your desire to be polite, but you have just disparaged the notion of what "cogent thought" used to mean, sir. A pox upon you!

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Science does not have to contradict faith, only a literal interpretation of the bible, which is like a storybook for children in explaining creation. After all the initial readers of the word were more than 1500 years from discovering that the Earth was not flat, the Earth was not the center of the universe, and there's this thing called gravity.

I don't have to believe a literal interpretation of the bible to have faith in God. What's wrong with saying God created everything and he did it in a manner consistent with how science explains it? What's wrong with pointing out that God explained it all in parables full of symbolism?

The easiest way to prove the literal bible wrong is if the universe was created just 10,000 years ago then we wouldn't be able to see stars that are more than 10,000 light years away as their light would not have reached us yet. I had a creationist try to explain that and my head was about ready to explode.
So was his theory that god gave the light from distant sources a "jump start" or what. I've never gotten anything but incoherent babbling when I've asked for an explanation for this.
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Old 11-11-2012, 08:48 AM   #875
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So was his theory that god gave the light from distant sources a "jump start" or what. I've never gotten anything but incoherent babbling when I've asked for an explanation for this.
My guy tried to explain that the laws of physics weren't the same across the universe.
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Old 11-27-2012, 11:47 AM   #876
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Human Change We Can Believe In

Montreal – A recent symposium on evolution in Montreal posed to high-school students and university professors the following question: “Do you think that humans are still evolving?” Approximately 80% of the audience answered “no.” Indeed, there is an almost universal belief that, with multifaceted cultures and intricate technology, humans have freed themselves from the pressures of natural selection.

Recent findings, however, show otherwise.
Far from providing immunity against evolutionary pressures, culture often creates new ones. For example, the genes associated with digestion of lactose are more prevalent in populations that have traditionally bred cattle and consumed milk.

In scientific reviews in Nature Genetics and Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America, the evolutionary biologist Stephen Stearns and his colleagues set out to demonstrate that natural selection operates on contemporary humans. Supported by extensive genealogies, including centuries of church and national health registries, their argument is convincing.

Indeed, contrary to the widely held assumption that evolution takes millennia to manifest itself, recent evidence suggests that its effects can become visible as quickly as in a few generations. Rapid evolutionary change, or “contemporary evolution,” is not drastic; humans are not likely to sprout wings a few generations down the road. Rather, these evolutionary effects are difficult to detect, as they are reflected in a population’s genetic composition.

Contemporary evolution requires a specific set of conditions. First, the population must comprise individuals with varying characteristics, or traits. Moreover, members of the population must differ in terms of survival rates, including, most important, lifetime reproductive success (LRS) – the total number of offspring that they produce over a lifetime. These conditions are fundamentally linked: different values for a particular trait translate into diverse survival rates.

This crucial link facilitates change in a trait’s average value over successive generations. For example, if larger individuals produce more children than smaller ones, the number of larger individuals would grow, thereby increasing the average size of individuals in the population. The most significant changes occur when individuals at one end of a trait’s value are heavily favored, pushing the entire population in that direction.

Prevalent human traits are often strongly associated with LRS. For example, people who first reproduce at a younger age tend to have more children, so selection generally favors those who become parents earlier. Tall women’s LRS tends to be lower, while tall men’s is higher.

In a recent study, research psychologist Markus Jokela and his colleagues took this link further, connecting LRS to personality. According to Jokela, selection pressure favors people of both sexes who are extroverted, open to experience, and less anxious. Moreover, women who are agreeable and less meticulous do better reproductively, while these qualities do not affect men’s LRS at all. Even certain cultural traits, such as income and wealth, can be connected to LRS: in men, the link is positive; in women, it is negative.

But translating selection pressure into evolutionary change requires another crucial ingredient: the variation observed in the trait should be caused at least in part by genetic differences. Indeed, evolution is possible only if the resemblance between related individuals has a genetic basis, and is not simply a reflection of a shared environment.

For example, siblings do not have to grow up together for their resemblance to be evolutionarily meaningful, owing to their common genes. Even when it comes to morphology, personality, and life-history traits – such as age at sexual maturity and fertility – related individuals’ likeness often has a genetic basis.

The conditions required for rapid evolutionary change to occur in human populations exist. But, given that measurable alterations in a trait over time can occur for many reasons – including those related to shared culture or environment – or randomly (“genetic drift”), studies demonstrating this phenomenon are rare. Today’s challenge is to isolate the diverse sources of change.

Recently developed statistical tools have finally made this possible. With more sophisticated methods, my colleagues and I were reliably able to distinguish genetic changes, and thus to demonstrate an evolutionary shift toward a younger age at first birth in a small, insular population in Québec over the last 140 years.

This discovery challenges another fundamental myth: evolutionary change necessarily benefits the species. In fact, evolution simply increases the average individual’s reproductive success – with potentially damaging demographic consequences. So, while contemporary evolution is occurring, adaptation may not always lead to a better life.
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Old 11-29-2012, 11:09 AM   #877
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Old 11-29-2012, 03:17 PM   #878
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"seeing only the good in religion doesn't make you an optimist, it makes you an idiot."
What does seeing only the bad in religion make you?
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A realist?
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The atheists on this board generally screech about their religious beliefs a lot more than religious posters. They're generally much more disrespectful, too.
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The atheists on this board generally screech about their religious beliefs a lot more than religious posters. They're generally much more disrespectful, too.
At least we don't go door to door, or put pamphlets on cars.

Creationists are more smug.
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The atheists on this board generally screech about their religious beliefs a lot more than religious posters. They're generally much more disrespectful, too.
If this is screeching then what is the political discourse in this forum?

This seems to me to be a semi-rational thread to discuss religion or lack thereof. Is one thread on anti-religion too much? How about we only have one thread on anti-Obama stuff as well.

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