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Old 01-31-2012, 01:52 PM  
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Old 11-29-2012, 03:13 PM   #5461
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I'm on board with the conference champions only format. I hate the idea of a national champion that couldn't even win it's own conference (or worse, division, like last year).
Exactly. You have an entire season to prove you are the best in your conference if you can't win that then you don't deserve a chance to win the whole damn thing.
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Old 11-29-2012, 03:15 PM   #5462
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Which is the definition of retarded. Do you think they wouldn't deserve to be in an 8 team playoff? What about UGA if they get destroyed by Bama? Still deserve to get in over them? Sorry I'm not an SEC homer yet, I can still see when another team is getting screwed, whether they're B12 or not.
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There is nothing homer about that article. It's as realistic a simulation as could possibly be made.

I would put KSU ahead of Georgia for sure.
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Old 11-29-2012, 03:16 PM   #5463
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What an odd post for a guy in Lee's Summit to make. I'd hate to think you're a liar and trying to circumvent a ban. That would be infraction worthy.
Almost reads verbatim to a similar post from an argument like this before.
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Old 11-29-2012, 03:18 PM   #5464
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I'm on board with the conference champions only format. I hate the idea of a national champion that couldn't even win it's own conference (or worse, division, like last year).
I want the four best teams, period. If Florida didn't get into their CCG because of a tiebreaker scenario, that doesn't definitively mean they aren't the best team in their conference.

If UCLA beats Stanford, does that make them better than Oregon?
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Old 11-29-2012, 03:21 PM   #5465
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And seeing someone like Florida get in when Georgia is out because they lost the conference championship game for which Florida didn't even qualify, is even worse. That's decidedly unawesome.
Why? Florida's resume is more impressive than Georgia's overall.
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Old 11-29-2012, 03:22 PM   #5466
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Exactly. You have an entire season to prove you are the best in your conference if you can't win that then you don't deserve a chance to win the whole damn thing.
That's stupid. You're including weaker teams just because they're in a different conference.
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Old 11-29-2012, 03:23 PM   #5467
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I'm on board with the conference champions only format. I hate the idea of a national champion that couldn't even win it's own conference (or worse, division, like last year).
But you're ok with that happening in nearly every other collegiate sport?
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It appears the only people who are for the conf. champ only model are fans of teams who are in weak conferences that wouldn't get in otherwise. They don't care about the 4 best teams playing, just the 4 best teams from separate conferences. Lame.
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Old 11-29-2012, 03:28 PM   #5469
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It appears the only people who are for the conf. champ only model are fans of teams who are in weak conferences that wouldn't get in otherwise. They don't care about the 4 best teams playing, just the 4 best teams from separate conferences. Lame.
The thing is it's very difficult to compare teams that play in different conferences. So we can know for sure who the best team in each conference is and then let them play. Makes perfect sense to me.
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I want the four best teams, period. If Florida didn't get into their CCG because of a tiebreaker scenario, that doesn't definitively mean they aren't the best team in their conference.

If UCLA beats Stanford, does that make them better than Oregon?
No, you're right, it doesn't. But we'll never have a perfect system for figuring out who the undisputed better team is under every scenario. I prefer to leave it up to each conference to figure out the best way to produce a champion and then let the champions duke it out for the national championship. Your preference (for the four best teams) isn't illegitimate, it's just not as good as mine.
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No, you're right, it doesn't. But we'll never have a perfect system for figuring out who the undisputed better team is under every scenario. I prefer to leave it up to each conference to figure out the best way to produce a champion and then let the champions duke it out for the national championship. Your preference (for the four best teams) isn't illegitimate, it's just not as good as mine.
So the plan is to force everyone into 4 different conferences.....correct?
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What about only playing 1 or 2 OOC games, play the 7 teams in your division, 1 rivalry game vs other division.

Top 2 from each division make conference playoffs the 4 teams play to determine who makes the conference championship game, those 2 play and the winner goes to the National Playoffs.

That should filter it down to 4 pretty damn good teams.
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Why? Florida's resume is more impressive than Georgia's overall.
For one thing, because Georgia beat Florida. Georgia also finished ahead of Florida in the division according to the rules of the conference. Florida had their chance to both win the division and beat Georgia on the field, but did neither.
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It's a simple concept. At the end of the season and after all conference championship games the top 4 teams in the BCS move on to the 4-team playoff. Brilliant! Anyone who feels a 4-team playoff shouldn't include the top 4 ranked teams either doesn't have a brain or isn't using it.
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For one thing, because Georgia beat Florida. Georgia also finished ahead of Florida in the division according to the rules of the conference. Florida had their chance to both win the division and beat Georgia on the field, but did neither.
But it's ok for Oregon to get in when they didn't win their division or conference?
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