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The Official "Lost" the series discussion

I figured I would start a thread for this and see what happens....there seemed to be quite a few viewers on the board for this show the past few weeks.....I like the direction the show is taking so far......episode 3 tonight at 7 central on ABC....
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Old 11-30-2012, 07:36 PM   #6346
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What wasn't explained that left you wanting? Just curious.
EVERYTHING was explained as a fever dream of a dead man. But along the way there were TONS and TONS of intriguing mysteries that were floated and subsequently ignored. Were I of the notion, I could catalog PAGES and PAGES of plot points, visual anomalies, hinted conspiracies, shadowy characters referenced, backstories hinted at, etc. etc. that Carlton and Cuse were more than satisfied to introduce as tantalizing mysteries to by subsequently explained with no intention whatsoever to do so.

It's like if you took Watergate, the Kennedy assassinations, the Patraeus scandal, the Teapot DOme, the Bay of Pigs, and the popularity of 2 1/2 Men, promised to establish how they were all linked to one common conspiracy, only to awake the next morning attributing everything to a bit of heartburn from a too rich piece of carrot cake. eaten last night.

If you want to answer your own question, start on page one of this thread and catalog each question contained therein, then justify how each was answered.
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Old 11-30-2012, 07:38 PM   #6347
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I've still never seen this show. I mean obviously I've seen little bits and pieces plus promos and commercials from TV, but that's all. How great is this show? I know a lot of people absolutely adore it, and there are some people who loathe it. Just makes me wonder if the people who hate it only hate it because it was popular.
I watched every episode. Talked about them and debated where the storyline was going etc. All of it was a dying mans dream? BS

I wanted to know the same answers that Dane mentioned. There was no payoff. The writers ****ed us and still don't come clean why they decided to do that to its viewers.
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If it's effective, who are you, me, or anybody else to call it abuse? I worked with a guy back in Moberly who would shove a finger up his son's ass each time he had anything worse than a C on his report card. If he came home with 2 D's and an F, that's 3 fingers (and this was a big dude). Does that sound hideous and disgusting? Absolutely. Did the kid ever get anything worse than a C after this rule was implemented? Not a chance.

I'm not saying it's morally right or wrong, but does it make the child because of it? Think about that for a second.
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Old 11-30-2012, 07:42 PM   #6348
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I was sucked in like everyone else. I managed to watch every ****ing episode of that show only to miss the very last one. I was pissed off to the point of no return. Then, I realized that they probably didn't answer anything anyway, so I said **** it. Maybe I should go and try to watch the last one just for closure.
It's all on Netflix.
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If it's effective, who are you, me, or anybody else to call it abuse? I worked with a guy back in Moberly who would shove a finger up his son's ass each time he had anything worse than a C on his report card. If he came home with 2 D's and an F, that's 3 fingers (and this was a big dude). Does that sound hideous and disgusting? Absolutely. Did the kid ever get anything worse than a C after this rule was implemented? Not a chance.

I'm not saying it's morally right or wrong, but does it make the child because of it? Think about that for a second.
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Old 11-30-2012, 07:49 PM   #6349
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EVERYTHING was explained as a fever dream of a dead man. But along the way there were TONS and TONS of intriguing mysteries that were floated and subsequently ignored. Were I of the notion, I could catalog PAGES and PAGES of plot points, visual anomalies, hinted conspiracies, shadowy characters referenced, backstories hinted at, etc. etc. that Carlton and Cuse were more than satisfied to introduce as tantalizing mysteries to by subsequently explained with no intention whatsoever to do so.

It's like if you took Watergate, the Kennedy assassinations, the Patraeus scandal, the Teapot DOme, the Bay of Pigs, and the popularity of 2 1/2 Men, promised to establish how they were all linked to one common conspiracy, only to awake the next morning attributing everything to a bit of heartburn from a too rich piece of carrot cake. eaten last night.

If you want to answer your own question, start on page one of this thread and catalog each question contained therein, then justify how each was answered.
I'm perfectly happy with the answers the show provided. I don't need to go fishing for questions others felt went unanswered.

Of course there were some red herrings along the way. Some by design and some just an unfortunate casualty of the process (ABC dragging their feet on an end date, for example). And some viewers latched on to things that were less important and made them very important in their own minds. Can't fault the creators for that.

And fever dream? Really? I'd recommend going back and watching again if that's really what you took away from it.

I'm not trying to stir up old shit. People that hated it, hated it, and I get that. I'm not here to change minds. I'm just curious, if there's a common thread among people who felt there was no payoff. I'm wondering if lots of people are citing the same mysteries as "unsolved" or "unexplained." Just curious if there's a consensus.
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Old 11-30-2012, 07:51 PM   #6350
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I watched every episode. Talked about them and debated where the storyline was going etc. All of it was a dying mans dream? BS

I wanted to know the same answers that Dane mentioned. There was no payoff. The writers ****ed us and still don't come clean why they decided to do that to its viewers.
Again, it wasn't a dying man's dream.

Whatever happened, happened. It's one of the major themes of the show.

I'd be livid too if that's really what the show boiled down to.
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Old 11-30-2012, 07:57 PM   #6351
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Again, it wasn't a dying man's dream.

Whatever happened, happened. It's one of the major themes of the show.

I'd be livid too if that's really what the show boiled down to.
Just a small [minute?] example, but I recall pondering a picture of Michael Emerson's childhood sweetheart as a child, ostensibly from the 70s, with a book published in the 2000's featured prominently on the bookshelf behind her.

Could just be lazy set design, but, contrary to your assertion above that red herrings were'n't the showrunners' fault, this was in a period of the show where C&C REVELED in viewers cueiing into the 'subtle' visual cues that they so meticulously planted.
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Old 11-30-2012, 08:01 PM   #6352
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Just a small [minute?] example, but I recall pondering a picture of Michael Emerson's childhood sweetheart as a child, ostensibly from the 70s, with a book published in the 2000's featured prominently on the bookshelf behind her.

Could just be lazy set design, but, contrary to your assertion above that red herrings were'n't the showrunners' fault, this was in a period of the show where C&C REVELED in viewers cueiing into the 'subtle' visual cues that they so meticulously planted.
Actually, I said some were by design. A good example is Walt on the milk carton. But that's also an example of an easter egg just for the fans that had nothing to do with the content of the show.

There are also several examples of mistakes in the show that the audience latched onto and insisted were clues. One example is when one of the show's crew members was caught in frame ducking behind a crate. Everyone watching thought it was some big clue - who is this person? Why are they hiding? Was that Charlotte? She had red hair, I think that was Charlotte!

But the show runners admitted it was just a film flub. A crew member was in the frame and they didn't have another take.

So, yes, some of those things are intentional. Some are just jokes for the viewers that don't amount to more than just good natured fun. And some are just mistakes.

I don't recall the exact situation you're referring to. But I'd bet my bottom dollar it was just an overlooked prop.
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No, they do not.

Who was Jacob? Who was his brother? How old were they? How long had they been on the island? Why were there Egyptian symbols and statues everywhere? Why were the "Losties" brought to the island? How could the island move through time? How did Penelope's father know how to travel back and forth?

What happened to Sun & Jin's baby? Why was Walt "special"? What happened to Michael? JFC, I could go on and on and on.

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I enjoyed the show every week and couldnt wait for the questions to be answered.
Like many movies or even books I'd be ok with a couple slipping by..but there has to be 50 Big questions that were never answered in the least.

There was no pay out for the build up.

The last episode..their all DEAD?!?! .. no sh1t I knew that after I saw the first trailer on tv Before the series even aired.
I wanted to hear the story tellers thoughts on what had transpired, were they in purgatory..and all those infinite questions none of which were answered.
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If LOST had one major problem it was that the show was so universal, so gripping, that people made it there own. The audience felt ownership of it. And, I think, that's where so much of the letdown came from.

The other problem is that the show came about during the internet age. People discussed the show like crazy. The show runners took advantage of that, and sometimes it backfired. You want to blame somebody? Blame that asshole who posted the screenshot of the fake polar bear from the first run of ads for the pilot episode.

If that person hadn't done that, Lindelof & Co might not have worried so much about the minute attention people were paying to their show.
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So that synapsis ends halfway through it in my phone.


Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

Who was supposedly dreaming?
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I enjoyed the show every week and couldnt wait for the questions to be answered.
Like many movies or even books I'd be ok with a couple slipping by..but there has to be 50 Big questions that were never answered in the least.

There was no pay out for the build up.

The last episode..their all DEAD?!?! .. no sh1t I knew that after I saw the first trailer on tv Before the series even aired.
I wanted to hear the story tellers thoughts on what had transpired, were they in purgatory..and all those infinite questions none of which were answered.
They're only dead in the flash-sides sequences in S6. The rest of the time they are very much alive.
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So everyone was dead?
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So everyone died at some point?

Then they were alive at the end?
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So that synapsis ends halfway through it in my phone.


Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

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People often misinterpret the ending as "the whole thing was Jack's dream."

This was not the case.
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People often misinterpret the ending as "the whole thing was Jack's dream."

This was not the case.
Jack died then?
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