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Old 12-01-2012, 07:52 AM  
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Shooting at Arrowhead- Chiefs player commits suicide

No details yet. Just came across on the news.

edit: Sources say the player is Jovan Belcher. Police have yet to confirm.

An unnamed Kansas City Chiefs player has committed suicide at the team facility and authorities are on the scene, the police confirmed to ESPN on Saturday morning.

Local reports say police are operating with the belief the player fatally shot his girlfriend at a house before driving to Arrowhead Stadium and killing himself at around 8 a.m local time. The Associated Press reported the player's age to be 25.

"We can confirm that there was an incident at Arrowhead earlier this morning," the Chiefs said in a statement. "We are cooperating with authorities in their investigation."

There were no other injuries at the team facility, police said.

The Chiefs (1-10) were preparing to host the Carolina Panthers on Sunday.

The NFL has told the Panthers to travel as planned to Kansas City on Saturday, the Charlotte Observer has reported, citing interim general manager Brandon Beane.


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Old 12-01-2012, 12:13 PM   #1036
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This could be, but it's just such a strange, unsettling situation that I could see many not wanting to be there.
Well, football is what the town is.

Just reading stuff online, people are gonna want to be there to support the players.

Just my gut feeling.
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Old 12-01-2012, 12:14 PM   #1037
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Statement from Kansas City Chiefs Chairman & CEO Clark Hunt

Posted 9 minutes ago

PR Staff Kansas City Chiefs Public Relations Official Press Release Email @ChiefsPR

"The entire Chiefs family is deeply saddened by today's events, and our collective hearts are heavy with sympathy, thoughts and prayers for the families and friends affected by this unthinkable tragedy. We sincerely appreciate the expressions of sympathy and support we have received from so many in the Kansas City and NFL communities, and ask for continued prayers for the loved ones of those impacted."

We will continue to fully cooperate with the authorities and work to ensure that the appropriate counseling resources are available to all members of the organization.

--CHIEFS--
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Old 12-01-2012, 12:14 PM   #1038
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Old 12-01-2012, 12:14 PM   #1039
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I think fans are gonna show up en masse to support the players.
I can't decide if I'm going or not.

I think I may show up to the game in support of the team, but I don't think I'm going to tailgate. The atmosphere will be awful.

What reason is there for enjoying ourselves tomorrow?
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Old 12-01-2012, 12:15 PM   #1040
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I don't know what to expect. I could see more people showing up for support... but I could also be empty because this is going to be like a funeral. Certainly not entertainment, which is what the NFL is supposed to be. Which is why this is stupid.

Plus our coaching staff isn't going to have their head in the game at all, I'd imagine. That can't be good. Maybe I'm not giving them enough credit. Or guys like DJ and Hali who are going to spend the whole game thinking about this when Belcher isn't there communicating with them during the game.
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Old 12-01-2012, 12:15 PM   #1041
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Sounds to me like he must have been another Chiefs player then. Why go to the stadium if this is not the case?
hadn't even thought of that


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Old 12-01-2012, 12:16 PM   #1042
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Although I disagree with everything Scott Pioli and Romeo Crennel have done football wise my thoughts go out to them today as people. This is something that won't go away. Also, to the little girl that is without parents at 2 1/2 months old. The football season seems pretty trivial at moment.
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Old 12-01-2012, 12:16 PM   #1043
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Old 12-01-2012, 12:16 PM   #1044
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I've typed out four different long responses to how I feel about all of this, and decided it just wasn't worth it.

I'll just say that I have exactly zero time or patience for someone that chooses to murder then take their own life.
I'm really having conflicted feelings about it.

I really liked Belcher as a player.

But I guess what's right is right. He did a horrible thing.
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Old 12-01-2012, 12:17 PM   #1045
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the rumor reason would be .... that Belcher probably planned on going and finding/killing the guy who was the biological father of his child, that he just found about, that started all the shooting.
Meanwhile other reports are that this was as a result of an argument when the g/f came back late from a concert.

I think throwing around the baby mamma drama right now is uncalled for, especially from a guy that's already hopped on his soap box several times today.
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Old 12-01-2012, 12:17 PM   #1046
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This death is a shattering blow to the team's psyche and confidence. I can't imagine many of the guys possess the will to play football at the moment.

It may be prudent at the end of the year even moreso now to let go of Pioli and Crennel if Clark wasn't already planning on doing so. Continuing the administration like this just sort of mires a coaching staff and a team in the past, which is never a good thing.
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Old 12-01-2012, 12:17 PM   #1047
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If I'm Clark, I'm calling a team meeting and letting the players and coaches vote on whether to play tomorrow or not. Majority decides and I'll deal with the fallout from Goodell.
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I can't decide if I'm going or not.

I think I may show up to the game in support of the team, but I don't think I'm going to tailgate. The atmosphere will be awful.

What reason is there for enjoying ourselves tomorrow?
This.

I've flip-flopped 100 times over the past hour trying to decide if I want to find a ticket and make the trip.

Part of me feels this unexplainable desire to be there, to support the players, and then I talk myself out of it, knowing it's going to be an extremely tough and emotional day.
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