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Old 12-02-2012, 02:03 PM  
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Old 12-02-2012, 05:37 PM   #136
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Old 12-02-2012, 05:39 PM   #138
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Gotta wonder if the new regime in SD is going to want a QB. Rivers looks like Gannon out there, only he hasn't adjusted to his arm strength. Everything has air on it. I don't know what happened to him.
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Old 12-02-2012, 05:39 PM   #139
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If KC had split with the Chargers we'd have the same number of W-L's.

The Chargers are just an awful team, but don't get nearly the credit they deserve for the suckiness.
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Old 12-02-2012, 05:41 PM   #141
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Gotta wonder if the new regime in SD is going to want a QB. Rivers looks like Gannon out there, only he hasn't adjusted to his arm strength. Everything has air on it. I don't know what happened to him.
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Old 12-02-2012, 05:41 PM   #142
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Old 12-02-2012, 05:42 PM   #143
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What did you think of Cam Newton and his read option?

I know that some of the members did not want to win the game because of draft position - But I am happy the Chiefs won...Can't help it.
Personally, I think that offense needs to play SS inside more.

Guy is a complete mismatch against most corners. He plays a few snaps inside but I think they could be more effective w/ him inside.

As for their ZR, I don't recall seeing too much of it (albeit I was watching the Detroit/Colts game at the same time). I think the problem w/ Carolina's rushing attack largely stem from
A) Cam's inability to make correct reads the majority of the time (i.e. the game is too fast for him currently. He can probably get better at this, for Panthers fans sake).
B) The Panthers RBs are indecisive when running off the read option. IMO, if you're running the ZR in the NFL, your backs need to hit the hole as quickly as possible as the PA/ZR allows time for defenses to react and safeties to move back into the box. For example, it may start with a 7-man front, but once the qb sticks the ball out in front, you're going to typically be facing a near immediate 8 or even a 9 man front, depending on the coaching style.

This requires the RB to hit the hole as quickly as possible as to try and beat the safeties/defense from getting to the hole.

JMO, and I'm a few beers in. Feel free to tear this apart, meus amigos.
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Old 12-02-2012, 05:43 PM   #144
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Yeah that's all true. Still, it's like he can't put any zip on the ball.
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Old 12-02-2012, 05:47 PM   #145
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Personally, I think that offense needs to play SS inside more.

Guy is a complete mismatch against most corners. He plays a few snaps inside but I think they could be more effective w/ him inside.

As for their ZR, I don't recall seeing too much of it (albeit I was watching the Detroit/Colts game at the same time). I think the problem w/ Carolina's rushing attack largely stem from
A) Cam's inability to make correct reads the majority of the time (i.e. the game is too fast for him currently. He can probably get better at this, for Panthers fans sake).
B) The Panthers RBs are indecisive when running off the read option. IMO, if you're running the ZR in the NFL, your backs need to hit the hole as quickly as possible as the PA/ZR allows time for defenses to react and safeties to move back into the box. For example, it may start with a 7-man front, but once the qb sticks the ball out in front, you're going to typically be facing a near immediate 8 or even a 9 man front, depending on the coaching style.

This requires the RB to hit the hole as quickly as possible as to try and beat the safeties/defense from getting to the hole.

JMO, and I'm a few beers in. Feel free to tear this apart, meus amigos.
Good points...Read option is a drive killer.

Cam reminds me of Donovan McNabb. They is so much that I don't like about him, though. I am glad he is in the NFC.

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Old 12-02-2012, 05:48 PM   #146
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Gotta wonder if the new regime in SD is going to want a QB. Rivers looks like Gannon out there, only he hasn't adjusted to his arm strength. Everything has air on it. I don't know what happened to him.
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Good points...Read option is a drive killer.

Cam reminds me of Donovan McNabb. They is so much that I don't like about him, though. I am glad he is in the NFC.

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I think you might be able to run a primarily ZR offense if you had a competent QB that could make the read quickly (ala RG3) and a decisive, large and quick RB ( AP, Foster, etc.) I doubt it has longevity in this league though.
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I think you might be able to run a primarily ZR offense if you had a competent QB that could make the read quickly (ala RG3) and a decisive, large and quick RB ( AP, Foster, etc.) I doubt it has longevity in this league though.
Agreed. Although, Cam will NEVER be in the same conversation vs. RG3 - Ever.
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