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Old 01-16-2012, 09:42 PM  
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Xbox 720 vs PlayStation 4: Whats in Store?

Microsoft's Xbox 720 and Sony's PlayStation 4 are the two gaming consoles that have been heavily discussed on the Internet over the last few months.

Though both the companies had denied any such developments, gamers expected announcements of the devices at the CES 2012. However, no such announcements were made and now it is expected that official announcements will be made at the E3 2012.

Both PlayStation 4 and the Xbox 720 have to be launched at the same time if they want to stand any chance to outclass each other in the console market. The prices are expected to be high for a console that will deliver next-gen graphics and gameplay. However, both the companies have to play this card wisely as the price factor will have a major determining point in the popularity of the console. The same goes for the game and points achievements and the Live arena options.

Let's have quick look at what could be expected:

Processing Power: Though it is widely believed that the current PlayStation 3 has the edge over the Xbox 360 technically with processing power, graphical prowess and high-definition media via Blu-Ray drive, the next generation Xbox is expected to sport a more powerful processor with extreme graphics capability. According to a New Xbox 720 report, the new Xbox will feature an advanced Central Processing Unit with ground-breaking graphics. The current generation console sports a triple-cored 3.2 GHz processor, coupled with an exciting Graphics Processing Unit (GPU).

However, these specs have been countered by a report from PS4Playstation4.com report, saying Sony will add more SPEs (Synergistic Processing Elements) to the current amount of 8 SPEs which run at 3.2 GHz. Out of this, one is disabled for yield purposes and one for security purposes such as encryption and decryption of the hard drive in real time.

The cell in the PS3 has an overall performance of 204 GFLOPs (floating-point operation per second). It is believed that Sony will increase the current amount of 8 SPEs to 16 SPEs to provide optimal power to heat ratio, provided it is manufactured at 32nm. This will make it capable of consuming the same amount of energy as the 90nm Cell processor found in the 60/20GB PS3s.

It is expected that Microsoft may not choose to stick with IBM to deliver the device's processing power in the future for their new console and a new Fusion chip from AMD might replace it. To meet the fan expectations, Microsoft will surely have to bring in more horsepower to last for at least 10 years. This can be done with an enhanced CPU that will compliment the GPU to produce amazing visuals. Although no game has been declared for the new Xbox, it is believed that titles like "Halo 5" and "Gears of War 4" could become one of the first few games to arrive for the console.

Disc Format: Many believe that Sony will let to go its usual Blu-Ray and replace it with HVDs (Holographic Versatile Disc) though the HVD drives are too expensive and too big.

The new drives are expected to use a full 100GB disc with an advanced Blu-Ray drive for faster reading. The current PS3 has a 2x Blu-ray Disc, where 4x is the minimum to read a 100Gb disc. However, the average read speed nowadays is 8x and it is also relatively cheap. Hence it can be expected that the PS4 will have at least an 8x drive which reads at 36MB/s, and games will load much faster.

The 720, on the other hand, has an unusual rumor making rounds saying that the new console will use Cloud for storage which have been redirected from the fact that Steam has done so well on PC over the years. Now it is being thought if the 720 games will actually feature on a disc at all, or will be simply downloaded from Cloud whenever they will be required. Microsoft could also have opted for the traditional Blu-ray system hadn't it been already owned by rivals, Sony. Other sources have claimed that the future 720 games could also come as Flash drives.

Controller: With rumors making rounds, stories about the console controllers have also gained momentum over the months. Although nothing really is known about the PS4 controller or is too absurd to write about it, the 720 controllers have seen interesting rumors and stories making headlines. It is expected that the 720 controllers will be controlled purely by Kinect style motion sensors. This may sound absurd at the moment but could make a surprise entry with the 720. However, hopefully the traditional style controllers for both Sony and Microsoft will be around for a while.

USB connections: Like the controllers for Sony above, nothing really is known about the Xbox 720 USB connections while a little has been known about the PS4 USB connections. At least 2 to 4 USB 3.0 connections are expected that will back up 100GBs of install data, save data and applications that will take only half the normal time of transfer which can currently take up to 8 hours.

(These are all speculations based on what the consoles currently have and the latest technology that is available at the moment. Any further developments will be posted.)


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Old 06-18-2012, 09:23 AM   #211
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The reason that this is absolutely idiotic, is because the Hackers are still going to find a way to steal their media. They will never be stopped. All this is going to do is **** up some of the best parts of gaming, and force some nerds to miss a few nights sleep.
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Old 06-18-2012, 04:25 PM   #212
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I just had my DVD Rom in my xbox 360 go out yesterday. Refuses to read any disc. This is my second 360 that needs an out of warranty repair. This along with a PS3 that died on me(Thank god for American Express), I am not even going to think about buying the next gen consoles unless they have a 2 year warranty.

Give it all the bells and whistles you want, I have no faith that a console from Sony and especially Microsoft will last the full life cycle like my XBOX, PS2, PS, N64, SNES and NES did.

They just dont build them like they used to.
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Old 06-18-2012, 04:30 PM   #213
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I just had my DVD Rom in my xbox 360 go out yesterday. Refuses to read any disc. This is my second 360 that needs an out of warranty repair. This along with a PS3 that died on me(Thank god for American Express), I am not even going to think about buying the next gen consoles unless they have a 2 year warranty.

Give it all the bells and whistles you want, I have no faith that a console from Sony and especially Microsoft will last the full life cycle like my XBOX, PS2, PS, N64, SNES and NES did.

They just dont build them like they used to.
That is because it creates a new revenue stream for them.
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Old 06-19-2012, 12:55 AM   #214
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They just dont build them like they used to.
I had my XBOX 360 repaired once every 3-6 months for three years before I finally got rid of it and have since had two PS3's.

My Nintendo and Super Nintendo STILL work. My PS2 kinda works but it occasionally has hiccups reading discs.
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Old 06-20-2012, 02:54 PM   #215
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yeah by the end of it my PS2 was struggling reading discs but it was a launch console. I finally bought the hard drive ripper for it just so I could play games without Disc read errors. I turned my original xbox into a media center that worked amazing for years. I finally upgraded to a modded Apple TV and HTPC when I wanted to watch high def content.

All of my PS, Dreamcast, Sega Genesis, and SNES are in boxes in my closet, but still work. I need to build a MAME so i can play all those old games again.

FWIW, my fiance's Wii still works, but it is hardly used. Even then, I wouldnt buy the Wii U because that looks DERPtacular.
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Old 12-02-2012, 08:19 PM   #216
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Sony’s radical PlayStation 4 controller concept: A motion-control device you can split in half




While Nintendo (NTDOY) has been busy innovating with unique controllers on the Wii and Wii U, Sony’s (SNE) DualShock controller for its PlayStation, PlayStation 2 and PlayStation 3 has remained virtually the same since 1997. A newly discovered patent reveals Sony might be planning on a radical overhaul of the DualShock for the PlayStation 4 that’s rumored to arrive next year. U.S. patent 20120302347A1 details a “hybrid separable motion controller” that resembles a DualShock controller with two PlayStation Move sensor balls attached to it. Much like how the Wii Remote and Nunchuk controller combo separated the left and right hand input, the Sony controller patent goes one step further by allowing the two halves to be split and combined at any time – all without reducing the amount of buttons available.


The patent also highlights the inclusion of a “connection sensor for determining whether the controller is in a connected configuration or a disconnected configuration.”

One of the PlayStation Move’s biggest disadvantages is that it’s a separate controller and not the default one. As a result, most developers either saw it as merely a Wii Remote clone or as a niche controller with a limited install base not worth programming special controls for. If Sony were to include proper 1:1 motion controls within the default PS4 controller without turning its back on the “core” controller, it could greatly appeal to casual and core gamers.

Such a controller can be considered a natural evolution of the current DualShock 3 controller that sports limited motion controls using its three-axis accelerometer and gyroscope.

Of course, the controller is only a patent that may never make it to market, so don’t get your hopes up if it doesn’t happen.

http://news.yahoo.com/sony-radical-p...151003000.html
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Old 12-02-2012, 08:49 PM   #217
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So what was the Buzz on the Wii U? Seems like i didnt hear much about it out of E3. Did it get bad buzz?
I shelled out for the Wii U for my son for Christmas. He has been so excited for it, I sure hope it doesn't disappoint. It looks pretty amazing.
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:01 PM   #218
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Sony’s radical PlayStation 4 controller concept: A motion-control device you can split in half




While Nintendo (NTDOY) has been busy innovating with unique controllers on the Wii and Wii U, Sony’s (SNE) DualShock controller for its PlayStation, PlayStation 2 and PlayStation 3 has remained virtually the same since 1997. A newly discovered patent reveals Sony might be planning on a radical overhaul of the DualShock for the PlayStation 4 that’s rumored to arrive next year. U.S. patent 20120302347A1 details a “hybrid separable motion controller” that resembles a DualShock controller with two PlayStation Move sensor balls attached to it. Much like how the Wii Remote and Nunchuk controller combo separated the left and right hand input, the Sony controller patent goes one step further by allowing the two halves to be split and combined at any time – all without reducing the amount of buttons available.


The patent also highlights the inclusion of a “connection sensor for determining whether the controller is in a connected configuration or a disconnected configuration.”

One of the PlayStation Move’s biggest disadvantages is that it’s a separate controller and not the default one. As a result, most developers either saw it as merely a Wii Remote clone or as a niche controller with a limited install base not worth programming special controls for. If Sony were to include proper 1:1 motion controls within the default PS4 controller without turning its back on the “core” controller, it could greatly appeal to casual and core gamers.

Such a controller can be considered a natural evolution of the current DualShock 3 controller that sports limited motion controls using its three-axis accelerometer and gyroscope.

Of course, the controller is only a patent that may never make it to market, so don’t get your hopes up if it doesn’t happen.

http://news.yahoo.com/sony-radical-p...151003000.html
That looks stupid.
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:07 PM   #219
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That looks stupid.
I also think it looks like it would be difficult to play
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Old 12-02-2012, 10:17 PM   #220
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I'm going with Durango, or Xbox 8 or whatever the **** it's going to be called. It's going to have a controller with MS Surface, built in Kinect 2.0 and 0 weird ass Japanese games.
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Old 12-02-2012, 11:39 PM   #221
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Screw the next Gen, unless all releases are on PC in which case bring em' on to get rid of shitty PC ports with graphics being held back to suit the consoles. Btw I had a 360 for 10 years and hated the pos, just got a PS3 and it is worlds better...hard to explain why.
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only thing ps3 imo is better at is Blu Ray and for media streaming. Loved the media streaming alot better then the xbox's. To bad it died, it was a launch system. 60 gb BC one.
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Screw the next Gen, unless all releases are on PC in which case bring em' on to get rid of shitty PC ports with graphics being held back to suit the consoles. Btw I had a 360 for 10 years and hated the pos, just got a PS3 and it is worlds better...hard to explain why.
Both have their places in the world.
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Old 12-03-2012, 12:22 AM   #224
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only thing ps3 imo is better at is Blu Ray and for media streaming. Loved the media streaming alot better then the xbox's. To bad it died, it was a launch system. 60 gb BC one.
I've had it a week and a half and it's more stable than the 360 ever was. I went through 5 360's, I hate everything Microshaft...It just takes the fun out of gaming. The Ps3 controller is A LOT more comfortable and responsive to me.
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I've had it a week and a half and it's more stable than the 360 ever was. I went through 5 360's, I hate everything Microshaft...It just takes the fun out of gaming. The Ps3 controller is A LOT more comfortable and responsive to me.
Unfortunately, that's a common complaint with the 360. I was one of the fortunuate ones. I had my launch system from Day 1 and only got rid of it because I traded it in for a 360s when they came out. I had to send it in once because the graphics chipset needed to be repaired, otherwise I NEVER had a problem with it.

On the controller, I've finally gotten used to the PS3 controller. That being said, I've also noticed over this weekend that if I play for more than 4 hours in a single sitting, the carpal tunnel on my left hand starts to hurt.
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