Belcher to Pioli, "I Love you bro"

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

If it weren't for football, nobody would give a !@#$ about a random hot-head offing himself.

It is absolutely a football story because only through football is it a story at all.

People are trying to avoid discussing this in terms of what it means to our football team and I just don't understand why. The only reason we care at all is because of our football team. I have no problem at all with folks that ask if this will save Pioli's job or if it means we'll pursue Te'o now to replace Belcher. If not, how do we replace Belcher next season?

It's relevant to what we're all here to discuss.

And yeah, given Pioli's history as a callous shitheel and soulless self-promoter, I don't mind the 'how do we know he isn't making this up' line of thought either.

You don't get to spend 4 years being a cockholster to everyone and then be surprised when people aren't dying to throw sympathy your way.

Yes and no.

The reason we know/care about this is because it happened to someone who plays professional football in Kansas City, sure.

And it will affect the team (obviously. See: victory, yesterday). However, the turning of these events into a "Pioli won't get fired now" or "CHunt doesn't have the stones to can Crennel after this" is both pathetic and callous. It's a grotesque distortion ofa terrible tragedy, spinning it into a realm that people feel comfortable talking about.

I am confident that the victim's mother doesn't give a hot shit whether or not this extends Brian Daboll's contract.

This doesn't have nearly enough of a football impact to justify the way people are discussing it.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

Yes and no.

The reason we know/care about this is because it happened to someone who plays professional football in Kansas City, sure.

And it will affect the team (obviously. See: victory, yesterday). However, the turning of these events into a "Pioli won't get fired now" or "CHunt doesn't have the stones to can Crennel after this" is both pathetic and callous. It's a grotesque distortion ofa terrible tragedy, spinning it into a realm that people feel comfortable talking about.

I am confident that the victim's mother doesn't give a hot shit whether or not this extends Brian Daboll's contract.

This doesn't have nearly enough of a football impact to justify the way people are discussing it.

Are you the victim's mother? Is anyone on this board? Who gives a wet fart what they think about our discussion of Dabol's contract? They're not here, they're handling this in a context well apart from a dumbass internet chat room.

You said the operative phrase here and it's all that really matters in the context of what happens on this board - "spinning it into a realm that people feel comfortable talking about".

And why the **** shouldn't they? Everyone, literally every single person on this board, is here to talk Chiefs football. And none of us are here for community service or as a calling from God. We're here as an escape from life and as a place to dick around, make fart jokes and talk about sports, tits and whatever else floats our boat.

It's the virtual equivalent of a dive bar, but with nicer accoutrements.

Why exactly do you want us to sit around and wax poetic about the philosophical underpinnings of a murder/suicide?

Do that with your family. Do that with your pastor. Do that with your co-workers if need be. But that's not why this board exists.

But by all means, keep judging because Chiefsplanet, complete with poop threads and intentionally incorrect grammar, hasn't turned into your grandmother's sewing circle over the last 48 hours. I assure you, it is neither grating or preachy and we all really do appreciate the perspective you're here to force feed us.

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

If it weren't for football, nobody would give a !@#$ about a random hot-head offing himself.

It is absolutely a football story because only through football is it a story at all.

People are trying to avoid discussing this in terms of what it means to our football team and I just don't understand why. The only reason we care at all is because of our football team. I have no problem at all with folks that ask if this will save Pioli's job or if it means we'll pursue Te'o now to replace Belcher. If not, how do we replace Belcher next season?

It's relevant to what we're all here to discuss.

And yeah, given Pioli's history as a callous shitheel and soulless self-promoter, I don't mind the 'how do we know he isn't making this up' line of thought either.

You don't get to spend 4 years being a cockholster to everyone and then be surprised when people aren't dying to throw sympathy your way.

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[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

If it weren't for football, nobody would give a !@#$ about a random hot-head offing himself.

It is absolutely a football story because only through football is it a story at all.

People are trying to avoid discussing this in terms of what it means to our football team and I just don't understand why. The only reason we care at all is because of our football team. I have no problem at all with folks that ask if this will save Pioli's job or if it means we'll pursue Te'o now to replace Belcher. If not, how do we replace Belcher next season?

It's relevant to what we're all here to discuss.

And yeah, given Pioli's history as a callous shitheel and soulless self-promoter, I don't mind the 'how do we know he isn't making this up' line of thought either.

You don't get to spend 4 years being a cockholster to everyone and then be surprised when people aren't dying to throw sympathy your way.

Pioli's act as a man should have no bearing on what he's accomplished as a general manager. I understand people asking, but the answer should be the same as it was on Friday of last week. Performance in the position.

[memyselfI]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

Pioli's act as a man should have no bearing on what he's accomplished as a general manager. I understand people asking, but the answer should be the same as it was on Friday of last week. Performance in the position.

I agree he should go. However, I think some of the personal venom and derision towards him needs to back off....in a big way.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

Pioli's act as a man should have no bearing on what he's accomplished as a general manager. I understand people asking, but the answer should be the same as it was on Friday of last week. Performance in the position.

And it is. At least it is for you and I.

Meanwhile, Clark Hunt isn't you or I. He's a person that cut his teeth watching his dad let this team languish out of sheer loyalty. He's someone that was so opposed to major change that he needed to be pushed to axe Herm. He's clearly cautious to a fault.

Why isn't it fair to wonder whether or not the events of the last week have changed his mind? Not yours, not mine, but Clark Hunts? Because that's what we're discussing here and that's absolutely a viable question given what we know about Clark Hunt.

And yeah, that ultimately matters to me more than anything else to come out of this. Anyone that claims otherwise is full of shit. They're Chiefs fans and unless they light candles for every murder in KC, they only care about this particular murder because they're Chiefs fans. So to ask legitimate questions about the events impact on the Chiefs is wholly logical and perfectly sensible.

[memyselfI]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

And it is. At least it is for you and I.

Meanwhile, Clark Hunt isn't you or I. He's a person that cut his teeth watching his dad let this team languish out of sheer loyalty. He's someone that was so opposed to major change that he needed to be pushed to axe Herm. He's clearly cautious to a fault.

Why isn't it fair to wonder whether or not the events of the last week have changed his mind? Not yours, not mine, but Clark Hunts? Because that's what we're discussing here and that's absolutely a viable question given what we know about Clark Hunt.

And yeah, that ultimately matters to me more than anything else to come out of this. Anyone that claims otherwise is full of shit. They're Chiefs fans and unless they light candles for every murder in KC, they only care about this particular murder because they're Chiefs fans. So to ask legitimate questions about the events impact on the Chiefs is wholly logical and perfectly sensible.

The perfect scenario is that Clark decides it's not worth his precious time away from golf and hookers and decides to put the team up for sale to other local owners and takes Romeo and Pioli with him on the way out.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

And it is. At least it is for you and I.

Meanwhile, Clark Hunt isn't you or I. He's a person that cut his teeth watching his dad let this team languish out of sheer loyalty. He's someone that was so opposed to major change that he needed to be pushed to axe Herm. He's clearly cautious to a fault.

Why isn't it fair to wonder whether or not the events of the last week have changed his mind? Not yours, not mine, but Clark Hunts? Because that's what we're discussing here and that's absolutely a viable question given what we know about Clark Hunt.

And yeah, that ultimately matters to me more than anything else to come out of this. Anyone that claims otherwise is full of shit. They're Chiefs fans and unless they light candles for every murder in KC, they only care about this particular murder because they're Chiefs fans. So to ask legitimate questions about the events impact on the Chiefs is wholly logical and perfectly sensible.

Good post.

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

You know, I think a lot of people on this board are taking a non-football story and making it about football. Pioli the man is not Pioli the General Manager of the Chiefs, and everyone needs to slow their ****ing roll.

Quit tying the need to fire Pioli with this incident. They should have nothing to do with each other, and you just sound like complete shitheads when you do it.

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[jspchief]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

You know, I think a lot of people on this board are taking a non-football story and making it about football. Pioli the man is not Pioli the General Manager of the Chiefs, and everyone needs to slow their ****ing roll.

Quit tying the need to fire Pioli with this incident. They should have nothing to do with each other, and you just sound like complete shitheads when you do it.

Agree completely. rep

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by jspchief

Agree completely. rep

While I agree that this is separate from football, the fact that Pioli and Romeo witnessed this first-hand is ABSOLUTELY going to factor into the decision of whether or not to fire them.

Because firing someone is also about LIFE, as much as it is about football.

[memyselfI]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

While I agree that this is separate from football, the fact that Pioli and Romeo witnessed this first-hand is ABSOLUTELY going to factor into the decision of whether or not to fire them.

Because firing someone is also about LIFE, as much as it is about football.

I think they might want out after seeing something like that. I also think it provides a great out for all. Something like 'in order to move forward AND HEAL after a season mired in adversity and tragedy, a change is in order.'

It's not like either Pioli or Crennel felt loved and appreciated by anyone outside of One Arrowhead Drive. I think this could be the final straw in them wanting to get the f*** outta dodge.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by memyselfI

I think they might want out after seeing something like that. I also think it provides a great out for all. Something like 'in order to move forward AND HEAL after a season mired in adversity and tragedy, a change is in order.'

It's not like either Pioli or Crennel felt loved and appreciated by anyone outside of One Arrowhead Drive. I think this could be the final straw in them wanting to get the f*** outta dodge.

That's the way I see it.

If they are gone, it will be because they opted to step away from the game.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

You know, I think a lot of people on this board are taking a non-football story and making it about football. Pioli the man is not Pioli the General Manager of the Chiefs, and everyone needs to slow their ****ing roll.

Quit tying the need to fire Pioli with this incident. They should have nothing to do with each other, and you just sound like complete shitheads when you do it.

I agree 100% with this post.

[BossChief]

That story sounds made up. Sorry