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Old 12-04-2012, 09:45 PM  
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NFL will provide benefits to Belcher's daughter

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NFL will provide benefits to Jovan Belcher's daughter
By JonTayler on Dec 4, 8:48p

Three-month-old Zoey will receive yearly payments for the next 18 to 23 years of her life as part of the NFL's collective bargaining agreement.

The daughter of former Kansas City Chiefs linebacker Jovan Belcher, who committed suicide on Dec. 1 after murdering his girlfriend, will be financially supported by the NFL.

Three-month-old Zoey is the daughter of Belcher and Kasandra Perkins, whom Belcher shot early on Saturday before killing himself at the Chiefs' practice facility. She was at home when Belcher killed Perkins, then bent over her body to apologize and kiss her on the forehead. After that, Belcher kissed Zoey as well before fleeing the house.

According to NFL.com's Ian Rapoport, as part of the NFL's collective bargaining agreement, Zoey's guardian or her estate will receive $9,000 per month over the next four years, which amounts to $109,000 per year. In the fifth year, she'll receive $48,000. From then on, she'll be given $52,000 per year each year until she turns 18 or 23, depending on whether or not she goes to college.

According to multiple media sources, the relationship between Belcher and Perkins had been strained, with constant arguments over things like money. The Chiefs were reportedly providing counseling for Belcher.

Zoey is currently in the custody of her grandmother, Belcher's mother.
(And yes - I know Laz posted it in the other thread. I hate mega threads.)
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:03 PM   #31
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when she gets old enough there will be more than enough documentation to see how bad that was, and it could cause some sort of trauma say if they wait to tell her until shes 15, 16, 17, whatever the ****
I'm sure some people handle things A LOT DIFFERENTLY than me...I have kind of a 'don't really give a shit' or a 'what I don't know, doesn't hurt me' or a 'meh' attitude.

If my dad off'd my mom (hypothetically) when I was an infant and I got, on average, $60K a year every year until I was out of college...

I think I'd be able to deal with it when Grandpa told me when I was 16.
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:04 PM   #32
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but I'm a cold son of a bitch

I love my mom and dad, they have both been great to me and have taught me many, many, many important lessons and I respect both of them greatly

but honestly how could you miss someone you never knew? How could you feel pain about someone you never knew? My parents got divorced when I was 4, have no memories of them being together, and I never once in my life was sad about them not being together because I never knew them together

so yeah...IMO this little girl, assuming she lands a rational guardian, sort of hit a baby jackpot
This is quite abit different as Belcher took the life of her mom. He stole a piece from Zoey that no $$ can justify.
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:05 PM   #33
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but I'm a cold son of a bitch

I love my mom and dad, they have both been great to me and have taught me many, many, many important lessons and I respect both of them greatly

but honestly how could you miss someone you never knew? How could you feel pain about someone you never knew? My parents got divorced when I was 4, have no memories of them being together, and I never once in my life was sad about them not being together because I never knew them together

so yeah...IMO this little girl, assuming she lands a rational guardian, sort of hit a baby jackpot
Money isn't everything. Pretty sad.
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:06 PM   #34
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That's great. Doesn't replace her parents but financially stability will certainly help.
Agreed.

But it doesn't appear like she was going to grow up in a very stable environment...and when you're dad is an alcoholic driving a Bentley with no assurance a 2nd contract is on the way...

I'm telling you.

AND I'M SORRY TO SOUND CONTROVERSIAL

this may have been the best thing (in a very sick way) to ever happen to this little girl

I just call them how I see them and I realize for nice, middle class, suburban families like the majority of us grew up in this just seems disgusting and sick...

but someday we'll realize that a vast majority of these NFL players like Belcher didn't grow up in two parent households going to nice public schools eating three meals a day and being raised with manners and responsibility
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Money isn't everything. Pretty sad.
I agree it's not everything.

I'm looking at the big picture through my own glasses, making my own opinion. I respect anyone else's opinion as well.

I'm just saying:

After I weighed all of the current facts...

I think Zoey came out on top in this one. But I'll leave it at that.
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:10 PM   #36
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That's great. Doesn't replace her parents but financially stability will certainly help.
Am I the only one uncomfortable with the idea that "the NFL has this - we can leg go now?"

No, this isn't the NFL's issue - it's KC's.

This should be our responsibility because IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY.

Texas and Florida and NY shouldn't be paying for this because it's our loss. It's our family and our people.

Whatever comes from this it's ours.

And we should be taking care of ours...
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:11 PM   #37
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Agreed.

But it doesn't appear like she was going to grow up in a very stable environment...and when you're dad is an alcoholic driving a Bentley with no assurance a 2nd contract is on the way...

I'm telling you.

AND I'M SORRY TO SOUND CONTROVERSIAL

this may have been the best thing (in a very sick way) to ever happen to this little girl

I just call them how I see them and I realize for nice, middle class, suburban families like the majority of us grew up in this just seems disgusting and sick...

but someday we'll realize that a vast majority of these NFL players like Belcher didn't grow up in two parent households going to nice public schools eating three meals a day and being raised with manners and responsibility
You do realize lots of people go through tough stages in life and can change correct? I mean I get what you're trying to say, but I think you're being a little harsh trying to make a point.
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:11 PM   #38
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Am I the only one uncomfortable with the idea that "the NFL has this - we can leg go now?"

No, this isn't the NFL's issue - it's KC's.

This should be our responsibility because IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY.

Texas and Florida and NY shouldn't be paying for this because it's our loss. It's our family and our people.

Whatever comes from this it's ours.

And we should be taking care of ours...
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Am I the only one uncomfortable with the idea that "the NFL has this - we can leg go now?"

No, this isn't the NFL's issue - it's KC's.

This should be our responsibility because IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY.

Texas and Florida and NY shouldn't be paying for this because it's our loss. It's our family and our people.

Whatever comes from this it's ours.

And we should be taking care of ours...
I agree with this and I think the players would agree aswell. I think they want to be responsible for the child and help as much as they can. The NFL shouldn't take that away from the team & fans that care.
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You do realize lots of people go through tough stages in life and can change correct? I mean I get what you're trying to say, but I think you're being a little harsh trying to make a point.
I realize everyone can change. I'm just saying we have dozens, and dozens, and dozens of examples, and facts (80% of NFL players going broke 5 years out of the league; marginal player is driving a Bentley, come on!)

90% chance the girl would have ended up living with a single mother that was owed thousands and thousands of dollars of child support

Yes, fine. I'm being stereotypical, and it's a moot point. I agree. So this is my last post about it in this thread.

My only point was, based off of the stories we're hearing and off of history lessons...the infant daughter who will have no memories of this incident didn't come out a loser in the whole ordeal. Maybe not a winner, but definitely not a loser IMHO.
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Am I the only one uncomfortable with the idea that "the NFL has this - we can leg go now?"

No, this isn't the NFL's issue - it's KC's.

This should be our responsibility because IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY.

Texas and Florida and NY shouldn't be paying for this because it's our loss. It's our family and our people.

Whatever comes from this it's ours.

And we should be taking care of ours...


actually it's the NFL & NFLPA that's done the work homey but ok.
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actually it's the NFL & NFLPA that's done the work homey but ok.
Yeah, I'm wrong...
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This is nice and all, it really is...

but I guess I just don't understand it?

Why does she get 1.3M because her dad was a murderer and killed her mom? I'm glad this little girl will be financially sound and at least have a great trust fund set up for her for when she turns 18 but...I just, I guess I don't see why?

I'm not trying to be insensitive I'm just wondering why she's entitled to this money from the NFL?

Does this make sense or do I just sound like an asshole?
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