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This is what I mean when I say Fox is distinctly different from MSNBC and other liberal outlets: there is a difference between bias and unethical corruption. MSNBC is the former, Fox News embodies the latter. The conservative media is lying to you. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...us-conspiracy/ Five takeaways from the Fox News-David Petraeus conspiracy Posted by Erik Wemple December 4, 2012 at 12:45 pm The Washington Post’s Bob Woodward has dropped a nice little headline for the world’s media nerds. “Fox News chief’s failed attempt to enlist Petraeus as presidential candidate.” Turns out that Roger Ailes, who runs Fox News, was terribly impressed with the political credentials of Gen. David Petraeus. So in the spring of 2011, Ailes entrusted Fox News analyst K.T. McFarland to pass along a message from Ailes to Petraeus while the general was stationed in Afghanistan: If the president offers you the chairmanship of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, grab it; if not, bag the military and run for president. I might even quit and join your campaign. This is no flimsy allegation here, either. Woodward scored a 13:46 audio excerpt of the chat between Petraeus and McFarland. It yields several discrete lessons about Fox News. Lesson 1: Fox News is corrupt. The top executive at a cable news network passed along unsolicited advice to a general — boosterish, adoring advice. Mind you, the person to whom he passed along this boosterish, adoring advice was at the center one of the country’s most stubborn and critical news stories. No need to consult Poynter.org to determine whether this was a colossal conflict of interest. Don’t get too breathless about this spasm of Ailes political activism, however: It’s not the first time. Lesson 2: Fox News is corrupt. The audio of the conversation between McFarland and Petraeus is a must-hear, if only because you can hear the Fox News analyst telling Petraeus: “Everybody at Fox loves you.” Wonder how that adoration might affect Fox News coverage of the good general. Here’s a notion, from a McFarland piece: Quote:
Lesson 3: Fox News is corrupt. Ailes’s craving for the respect and admiration of a military hotshot like Petraeus emerges with Memorex clarity in this recording. For instance, McFarland tells Petraeus that she has a request “directly from [Ailes] to you: First of all, is there anything Fox is doing right or wrong that you want to tell us to do differently.” Unpacking the depravity in that one is a multi-part process. No. 1: Real journalists don’t act as supplicants, no matter how wonderful and powerful may be the official they’re interviewing. Real journalists publish their journalism and move on to the next story. If people have problems with or plaudits for the work, they can send an e-mail. No. 2: Note the promise in McFarland’s proffer. She invites the general to “tell us” to adjust coverage in whatever way he may see fit, in effect soliciting an order from a general. What an affirmation of journalistic independence. No. 3: To which individuals has Ailes “indirectly” advanced this offer? Lesson 4: Fox News is corrupt. The counterarguments against the allegations of corruption above aren’t hard to summon: Ailes is a former Republican operative, so he’ll always have a hand in the game. A journalist buttering up a source in an off-the-record interview is common practice. Hey, all journalists need feedback. Now, try to fashion an excuse for the offer that McFarland advanced in this exchange: Quote:
Lesson 5: Fox News is corrupt and nasty. To listen to the exchange between McFarland and Petraeus is to come away with the distinct impression that McFarland was under specific and binding orders from Ailes. She repeatedly invokes Ailes’s name, his advice and his interest in the career of Petraeus. The mandate to return to Ailes’s New York office with a mouthful of feedback from Petraeus rings from these words of McFarland’s: “So what do I tell Roger when he says…?” She continues spelling out the rules of engagement — how she was supposed to present the advice, and how she was supposed to report back. Given that dynamic, have a look at how Ailes responded when Woodward asked about the advice-giving mission: Quote:
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Here they ask if the RNC itself should fund it:
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Notice that the purpose of GOP TV (now FOX NEWS) is "to provide pro (Republican) administration news"
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MSNBC's journalistic bias is more noble.
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I read the entire transcript and didn't find it troubling at all. Why is it bad that Fox staff love Petraeus, but it's not troubling that a vast majority of political reporters adore Barack Obama and carry his water on a daily basis?
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There is a difference between bias and unethical corruption.
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I see no evidence of unethical corruption. There's no reason why Roger Ailes can't be a participant in the political process. He's not even a reporter. Jeffrey Immelt, CEO of the parent company that substantially owns MSNBC, worked closely with the Obama administration for a while. That doesn't mean that MSNBC is corrupt (at least not for that particular reason).
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Fox News' parent company donates millions to the RNC.
He is in charge of what hits the air. And he's asking a Republican/general/government employee to actively edit coverage. |
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Link?
Meanwhile, here's a more balanced assessment from last July of political activity associated with News Corp: Quote:
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The "tell us" line could be interpreted as nothing more than asking him for feedback on what they're doing.
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He's asking for adjustments the general would prefer the organization to make. Worlds, and worlds, and worlds of difference. It also included a prodding for him to run for office -- and that Ailes might work for his campaign if he did. |
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Just different words. The meaning is the same though. He's asking for feedback, not granting editorial power. So what? Obviously Ailes thinks Petraeus would have made a good POTUS candidate.
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He's absolutely granting editorial power.
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