Home Mail MemberMap Chat (0) Wallpapers
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > The Lounge

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-05-2012, 09:19 PM  
ChiefsandO'sfan ChiefsandO'sfan is offline
Alex Smith
 
ChiefsandO'sfan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Casino cash: $9607
Schefter- "Barkley Late first-round pick" Smith scouts "aren't completely wowed"

ESPN's Adam Schefter stated on Mike & Mike Wednesday morning that USC QB Matt Barkley is viewed around the NFL as a "late first-round pick."
Schefter cited a relatively weak incoming quarterback class as reasons for Alex Smith and Michael Vick to "absolutely" have strong offseason markets. Smith is a trade candidate, while Vick is expected to be released after the Super Bowl. Per Schefter, Heisman finalist Collin Klein is viewed as a "late-round pick," and scouts "aren't completely wowed" by West Virginia QB Geno Smith. Barkley showed underwhelming arm strength as a college senior and was interception prone. We wouldn't be surprised if he fell to the second round



http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7421/matt-barkley
Posts: 17,321
ChiefsandO'sfan threw an interception on a screen pass.ChiefsandO'sfan threw an interception on a screen pass.ChiefsandO'sfan threw an interception on a screen pass.ChiefsandO'sfan threw an interception on a screen pass.ChiefsandO'sfan threw an interception on a screen pass.ChiefsandO'sfan threw an interception on a screen pass.ChiefsandO'sfan threw an interception on a screen pass.ChiefsandO'sfan threw an interception on a screen pass.ChiefsandO'sfan threw an interception on a screen pass.ChiefsandO'sfan threw an interception on a screen pass.ChiefsandO'sfan threw an interception on a screen pass.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2012, 10:59 PM   #76
the Talking Can the Talking Can is offline
Gonzo = Sexy Bitch
 
the Talking Can's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: street
Casino cash: $10132
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud View Post
Te'o isn't Ray Lewis.

Te'o isn't Patrick Willis.

Te'o isn't Brian Urlacher.

Te'o isn't D'Qwell Jackson.

He may be a solid NFL linebacker but until he runs a 4.3 forty, measures 6'2 and weights 260 pounds at the Combine, the guy, IMO, is a mid-to-late draft choice at best.

He's most likely, IMO, a second round talent at best.

thank you
__________________
Clark Hunt: "Thank god for the Dominican pool boy"
Posts: 49,201
the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.the Talking Can is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2012, 10:59 PM   #77
O.city O.city is offline
Gonzo = Sexy Bitch
 
O.city's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2009
Casino cash: $19433
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frankie View Post
If (big IF) Te'o is what they say he is (and not a Notre Dame lust hype by the media) then yes. Provided we use the top of the 2nd on Murray, Wilson, or maybe even Bray. Our LB corps will be next to none. and we still get a QB we can count on panning out well. I've been very encouraged by what Dungy said about Murray and what I saw of him in the Alabama game. Granted I didn't see the entire game. Stat-wise too he compares well with Geno. See attached.
Murray is a legit 6" foot even. He has a strong arm and that offense doesn't do him alot of favors but his upside isn't that high, IMO.


And no, even if Teo is what they say, he isn't worth a top 5 pick. Look around the league at other 34 teams and look who plays the spot he would play here on our D.

You absolutely don't need a great high draft pick guy there to be successful.

And stat wise, Murray isn't close to Geno.
Posts: 31,529
O.city has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.O.city has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.O.city has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.O.city has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.O.city has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.O.city has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.O.city has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.O.city has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.O.city has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.O.city has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.O.city has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2012, 11:01 PM   #78
O.city O.city is offline
Gonzo = Sexy Bitch
 
O.city's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2009
Casino cash: $19433
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud View Post
Te'o isn't Ray Lewis.

Te'o isn't Patrick Willis.

Te'o isn't Brian Urlacher.

Te'o isn't D'Qwell Jackson.

He may be a solid NFL linebacker but until he runs a 4.3 forty, measures 6'2 and weights 260 pounds at the Combine, the guy, IMO, is a mid-to-late draft choice at best.

He's most likely, IMO, a second round talent at best.
This might be off, but if Lewis, Jackson, and Willis were available in this draft, considering where the Chiefs are roster wise and the defense we run, I'm taking a QB over all of those guys.

Last edited by O.city; 12-05-2012 at 11:06 PM..
Posts: 31,529
O.city has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.O.city has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.O.city has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.O.city has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.O.city has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.O.city has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.O.city has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.O.city has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.O.city has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.O.city has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.O.city has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2012, 11:03 PM   #79
DaneMcCloud DaneMcCloud is offline
Band
 
DaneMcCloud's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: The 'Wood
Casino cash: $12713
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city View Post
This might be off, but if Lewis, Jackson, and Willis were available in this draft, considering where the Chiefs are roster wise and the defense we run, I'm taking a QB over one of those guys.
That's fine.

Just don't tell me that Te'o is worthy of the number one overall pick, the Heisman, etc. when clearly he is not.

If the guy was at Wisconsin, he'd be mid-second rounder. Hell, Rey Maualuga was at USC sandwiched between Cushing and Matthews and HE was a second rounder.
Posts: 50,135
DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2012, 11:04 PM   #80
JASONSAUTO JASONSAUTO is offline
Thigpen for HOF
 

Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: mid missouri
Casino cash: $18787
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city View Post
This might be off, but if Lewis, Jackson, and Willis were available in this draft, considering where the Chiefs are roster wise and the defense we run, I'm taking a QB over one of those guys.
Not off at all.

Out linebackers could all quit and I would still take the qb
Posted via Mobile Device
Posts: 30,235
JASONSAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.JASONSAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.JASONSAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.JASONSAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.JASONSAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.JASONSAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.JASONSAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.JASONSAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.JASONSAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.JASONSAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.JASONSAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2012, 11:05 PM   #81
O.city O.city is offline
Gonzo = Sexy Bitch
 
O.city's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2009
Casino cash: $19433
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud View Post
That's fine.

Just don't tell me that Te'o is worthy of the number one overall pick, the Heisman, etc. when clearly he is not.

If the guy was at Wisconsin, he'd be mid-second rounder. Hell, Rey Maualuga was at USC sandwiched between Cushing and Matthews and HE was a second rounder.
I meant to say QB over all of those guys.


Misworded myself.
Posts: 31,529
O.city has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.O.city has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.O.city has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.O.city has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.O.city has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.O.city has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.O.city has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.O.city has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.O.city has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.O.city has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.O.city has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2012, 11:06 PM   #82
Frankie Frankie is offline
Banned
 
Frankie's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2001
Casino cash: $5000
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud View Post
Te'o isn't Ray Lewis.

Te'o isn't Patrick Willis.

Te'o isn't Brian Urlacher.

Te'o isn't D'Qwell Jackson.

He may be a solid NFL linebacker but until he runs a 4.3 forty, measures 6'2 and weights 260 pounds at the Combine, the guy, IMO, is a mid-to-late draft choice at best.

He's most likely, IMO, a second round talent at best.
That's why I qualified my statement. I do have this sneaky feeling that he benefits from the media love for Notre Dame. I guess, like you say the combines will decide. Strangely though, it seems a lot of draft prospects evaluation this year are pending the combine.
Posts: 27,013
Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.Frankie is too fat/Omaha.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2012, 11:06 PM   #83
Psyko Tek Psyko Tek is offline
special teams
 
Psyko Tek's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Mesa AZ
Casino cash: $4816
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning View Post
Chill out. Clark is going to demand a QB.
clark is gonna demand a striker
__________________
Psyko Tek

Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.

Friedrich Nietzsche

**** You Fred,
The abyss is my wallpaper
Posts: 10,222
Psyko Tek wants to die in a aids tree fire.Psyko Tek wants to die in a aids tree fire.Psyko Tek wants to die in a aids tree fire.Psyko Tek wants to die in a aids tree fire.Psyko Tek wants to die in a aids tree fire.Psyko Tek wants to die in a aids tree fire.Psyko Tek wants to die in a aids tree fire.Psyko Tek wants to die in a aids tree fire.Psyko Tek wants to die in a aids tree fire.Psyko Tek wants to die in a aids tree fire.Psyko Tek wants to die in a aids tree fire.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2012, 11:09 PM   #84
Chief_For_Life58 Chief_For_Life58 is offline
Veteran
 
Chief_For_Life58's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Lawrence
Casino cash: $9385
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reerun_KC View Post
More reason for kc to draft a linemen. We have a strong losing tradition to maintain.
haha this
Posts: 3,173
Chief_For_Life58 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chief_For_Life58 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chief_For_Life58 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chief_For_Life58 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chief_For_Life58 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chief_For_Life58 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chief_For_Life58 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chief_For_Life58 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chief_For_Life58 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chief_For_Life58 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chief_For_Life58 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2012, 11:09 PM   #85
O.city O.city is offline
Gonzo = Sexy Bitch
 
O.city's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2009
Casino cash: $19433
So here's the question Frankie, even with hindsight, knowing what all those guys turned out to be.


If they were available in this class, along with say I dunno Aaron Rodgers, who you taking?
Posts: 31,529
O.city has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.O.city has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.O.city has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.O.city has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.O.city has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.O.city has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.O.city has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.O.city has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.O.city has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.O.city has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.O.city has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2012, 11:10 PM   #86
DenverDanChiefsFan DenverDanChiefsFan is offline
coo coo ca choo
 
DenverDanChiefsFan's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Donkey Central
Casino cash: $5130
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frankie View Post
That's why I qualified my statement. I do have this sneaky feeling that he benefits from the media love for Notre Dame. I guess, like you say the combines will decide. Strangely though, it seems a lot of draft prospects evaluation this year are pending the combine.
Yeah, a lot of them seem to be up in the (mid)air.
Posts: 2,478
DenverDanChiefsFan would the whole thing.DenverDanChiefsFan would the whole thing.DenverDanChiefsFan would the whole thing.DenverDanChiefsFan would the whole thing.DenverDanChiefsFan would the whole thing.DenverDanChiefsFan would the whole thing.DenverDanChiefsFan would the whole thing.DenverDanChiefsFan would the whole thing.DenverDanChiefsFan would the whole thing.DenverDanChiefsFan would the whole thing.DenverDanChiefsFan would the whole thing.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2012, 11:15 PM   #87
Chief_For_Life58 Chief_For_Life58 is offline
Veteran
 
Chief_For_Life58's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Lawrence
Casino cash: $9385
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city View Post
So here's the question Frankie, even with hindsight, knowing what all those guys turned out to be.


If they were available in this class, along with say I dunno Aaron Rodgers, who you taking?
definitely taking the bonecrusher TJAX over em all deerp /egoli
Posts: 3,173
Chief_For_Life58 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chief_For_Life58 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chief_For_Life58 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chief_For_Life58 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chief_For_Life58 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chief_For_Life58 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chief_For_Life58 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chief_For_Life58 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chief_For_Life58 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chief_For_Life58 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chief_For_Life58 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2012, 11:16 PM   #88
DaneMcCloud DaneMcCloud is offline
Band
 
DaneMcCloud's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: The 'Wood
Casino cash: $12713
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frankie View Post
Strangely though, it seems a lot of draft prospects evaluation this year are pending the combine.
Personally, I've always felt this was true. But this year, with the Chiefs picking #1 or #2 overall, the Combine has an even greater significance.

Add in the new CBA (i.e., far less money invested) along with fan impatience and we're really looking at a franchise that needs to get this pick "right".

That said, trying to make that decision in early December is a recipe for disaster. So many things can change between now and mid-February.
Posts: 50,135
DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2012, 11:18 PM   #89
Pushead2 Pushead2 is offline
**** off
 
Pushead2's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: New York
Casino cash: $7655
I just want a QB that will make plays, isn't babysat in an offensive scheme to hide that they suck, doesn't check down all the time & give us a ****ing glimmer of hope in the future.

Not sure who fits that bill in the draft, but whoever it is - please take him.
__________________
"Just make sure you mention my name in the top brackets. And make sure they mention your name as the top - insert vulgar language that Chiefsplanet doesn't like even though it's a harmless lyric -....."
Posts: 4,430
Pushead2 has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Pushead2 has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Pushead2 has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Pushead2 has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Pushead2 has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Pushead2 has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Pushead2 has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Pushead2 has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Pushead2 has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Pushead2 has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Pushead2 has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2012, 11:33 PM   #90
T-post Tom T-post Tom is offline
10K. Well, さようなら.
 
T-post Tom's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Tokyo. Milk/Honey/Gazland
Casino cash: $5000
Let's assume Chiefs get the #1 pick and they go with Smith. Tyler Wilson is available with the 1st pick of the 2nd round. Should the Chiefs take Wilson? Let the best man win? Or possible trade bait for later? Or just a potential great backup at a decent salary...(yes, two different styles, for sure.)
Posts: 9,999
T-post Tom Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.T-post Tom Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.T-post Tom Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.T-post Tom Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.T-post Tom Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.T-post Tom Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.T-post Tom Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.T-post Tom Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.T-post Tom Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.T-post Tom Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.T-post Tom Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
  Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:49 AM.


This is a test for a client's site.
A new website that shows member-created construction site listings that need fill or have excess fill. Dirt Monkey @ https://DirtMonkey.net
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.