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Old 12-05-2012, 08:19 PM  
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Schefter- "Barkley Late first-round pick" Smith scouts "aren't completely wowed"

ESPN's Adam Schefter stated on Mike & Mike Wednesday morning that USC QB Matt Barkley is viewed around the NFL as a "late first-round pick."
Schefter cited a relatively weak incoming quarterback class as reasons for Alex Smith and Michael Vick to "absolutely" have strong offseason markets. Smith is a trade candidate, while Vick is expected to be released after the Super Bowl. Per Schefter, Heisman finalist Collin Klein is viewed as a "late-round pick," and scouts "aren't completely wowed" by West Virginia QB Geno Smith. Barkley showed underwhelming arm strength as a college senior and was interception prone. We wouldn't be surprised if he fell to the second round



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Old 12-06-2012, 06:38 AM   #121
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I just want someone who can get the ball down the god damn field for a change! No more 5 yard completion averages and wounded ducks on deep passes....
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Old 12-06-2012, 06:41 AM   #122
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Got roasted earlier in the year when I said that guys like Matt Miller and Matt Williamson were saying Barkley should go in the 20's.

He's just not an elite prospect.

Given the "new" value of drafted QBs (because of the CBA), I think he goes top 15. I think he's very similar in terms of overall talent vs. ceiling ratio as Christian Ponder.
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Old 12-06-2012, 06:43 AM   #123
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The irony in all of this is that the same people who want us to draft a quarterback in the first are the same people who want us to lose out. If we get the 1 overall then we are going to shop it and move down or pick someone else. Pretty much the only way we get a first round quarterback is if we don't pick so high.
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Old 12-06-2012, 06:44 AM   #124
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True. Cousins currently contributes nothing on gameday. Unless you include holding a clipboard.
You can get a guy like Cousins anywhere.

Hell, we have a guy JUST LIKE Cousins already on the roster.
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Old 12-06-2012, 06:44 AM   #125
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The irony in all of this is that the same people who want us to draft a quarterback in the first are the same people who want us to lose out. If we get the 1 overall then we are going to shop it and move down or pick someone else. Pretty much the only way we get a first round quarterback is if we don't pick so high.
We're going to be picking in the top 3. We have no excuse not to take a QB.
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Old 12-06-2012, 07:00 AM   #126
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We're going to be picking in the top 3. We have no excuse not to take a QB.
Yeah. We're not drafting OL no matter who comes in here. We have a lot of young, high round, draft picks on this roster, and they're banged up. It's QB or bust this year, and I have no doubt Clark is going to demand it. Regardless of who comes in.
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Old 12-06-2012, 07:01 AM   #127
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Whenever I've seen geno smith talk he's come across like a dick that taunts and has bad vocabulary. Complete opposite of an RGIII.
i'd love to see this, black bob....
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Old 12-06-2012, 07:13 AM   #128
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Where does Landry Jones fall? 2nd round? Why? He seems to have ideal size and arm strength.


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Old 12-06-2012, 07:16 AM   #129
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Where does Landry Jones fall? 2nd round? Why? He seems to have ideal size and arm strength.


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I think Landry Jones is a mid-1st guy. If Sam Bradford can be the #1 overall pick, Jones will go higher than most here expect.
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Old 12-06-2012, 07:25 AM   #130
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I think Landry Jones is a mid-1st guy. If Sam Bradford can be the #1 overall pick, Jones will go higher than most here expect.
Kind of what i was thinking....maybe late 1st.

Fans put too much into pure wins/losses when evaluating. Thats just not how you evaluate college QBs for the pro game.
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Old 12-06-2012, 07:38 AM   #131
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Smith, Wilson, Barkley are as good if not better prospects then Gabbert, Locker, and Ponder were and look where they were drafted.
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Old 12-06-2012, 07:39 AM   #132
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Smith, Wilson, Barkley are as good if not better prospects then Gabbert, Locker, and Ponder were and look where they were drafted.
Yep.

The new CBA changes the value chart considerably.

FWIW, Matt Williamson is on 810 WHB right now.
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Old 12-06-2012, 07:40 AM   #133
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just be virtue of need you'll have 4 QBs in the first, i think

smith
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Old 12-06-2012, 07:43 AM   #134
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Kind of what i was thinking....maybe late 1st.

Fans put too much into pure wins/losses when evaluating. Thats just not how you evaluate college QBs for the pro game.
OU fans hate him....

They hate the fact that he has proven he cant handle pressure or big games.

He turns the ball over or Cassels with the slighest bit of pressure... Also stated that since he got married. His failth and wife are more important than football..

But what the hell do OU fans know. Most of them hate the guy and are ready to see him leave...
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Smith, Wilson, Barkley are as good if not better prospects then Gabbert, Locker, and Ponder were and look where they were drafted.
I would take the 1st 3 over the 2nd group every single time.

Gabbert was weak in the pocket, Locker can't throw the ball accurately to save his life, and Ponder was just okay.
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