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Old 12-06-2012, 11:32 AM  
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Goodell considering doing away with kickoffs

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...ating-kickoffs

When the NFL changed the line of scrimmage for kickoffs to increase touchbacks, New England Patriots coach Bill Belichick derisively said that it was only a matter of time before the NFL eliminated kickoffs entirely. He believed that's what the NFL wanted to do.

Belichick might wind up being proven right.

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NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said that he's taken it under consideration to remove the kickoff entirely.

"It's an off-the-wall idea. It's different and makes you think differently. It did me," Goodell told TIME in a cover story for the Dec. 17 issue.

Even more intriguing is an alternative concept promoted by Tampa Bay Buccaneers coach Greg Schiano. Goodell met with the NFL competition committee chairman about the concept.

"After a touchdown or field goal, instead of kicking off, a team would get the ball on its own 30-yard line, where it's fourth and 15," TIME's Sean Gregory writes. "The options are either to go for it and try to retain possession or punt. If you go for it and fall short, of course, the opposing team would take over with good field position. In essence, a punt replaces the kickoffs."

It's an interesting idea. We haven't seen the numbers that punts are that much safer than kickoffs, but the NFL must have the data to support the notion if they were considering it.

The implications for strategy are even more intriguing. If a team is trailing by more than one score very late in the fourth quarter, they likely would to try to go for it on fourth-and-15 instead of punting. That's not an easy situation to convert, but the concept would still make it easier to make a comeback without ever giving the ball back to an opponent.
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Old 12-06-2012, 01:40 PM   #106
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i could see him just spotting the ball at the 20 instead of kickoffs..

don't like it but I see that as a more likely scenario vs that garbage of 4th and 15..
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Old 12-06-2012, 01:41 PM   #107
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They should change the kickoff back to the way it was and have the kick off team start further back from where the ball is kicked from!

If they want to make drastic changes then they should implement under 5 minutes after each play the clock stops whether they are in bounds or not. I am sick of seeing games that are finished in the last 5 minutes because the other team can run out clock and in some instances take a penalty to waste time for an advantage.
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Old 12-06-2012, 01:49 PM   #108
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They always talk about injuries on kickoffs, but I don't seem to notice it. Seems like a lot more violent hits (and fines) on 3rd and 4th and long when WRs are left out to dry.
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Old 12-06-2012, 01:52 PM   #109
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Hey lets do away w/ tackling too!!!
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Old 12-06-2012, 01:58 PM   #110
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The league wants to focus on the dangers of kick returns yet the HOF refuses to vote in special teamers since they aren't "real" players.
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Old 12-06-2012, 02:00 PM   #111
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Goodell doesn't have a stranglehold on the rules. Any rules changes have to be approved by the rules committee. That said, knowing the commissioner is behind a rule change adds weight to the argument. They're still able to tell him no as they have with the 18 game schedule and a team in London.
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Old 12-06-2012, 02:28 PM   #112
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They're doing all of this because the NFL is gonna get bitch slapped with a huge concussion class-action lawsuit, and they're doing as much damage control as they can now to make it look like they're promoting as much safety as possible.
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Old 12-06-2012, 03:18 PM   #113
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Could you throw it across the infield to the other side? Or would it be like hockey icing where you can't throw it further than one end zone?

If you have the "sidelines" in the middle then I think you have to rule out throws across the middle. Too much potential for interference. How about we make the area in the middle circular with a cirumference of 110 yards? The field itself could be 53.5 yards wide.This gives the middle spot a diameter of 35 yards. Eliminate the "sidelines" concept and rent ad space there instead. Allow signage below thirty inches in height. I like your "icing" rule. Say a pass can not circumvent an end zone at any time or it is an illegal "forward pass."
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Old 12-06-2012, 03:56 PM   #114
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Old 12-06-2012, 05:09 PM   #115
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"After a touchdown or field goal, instead of kicking off, a team would get the ball on its own 30-yard line, where it's fourth and 15," TIME's Sean Gregory writes. "The options are either to go for it and try to retain possession or punt. If you go for it and fall short, of course, the opposing team would take over with good field position. In essence, a punt replaces the kickoffs."
Uh no. With the current BS they have done to kickoffs, I would be fine with them just giving the opposing team the ball on the 20 after scores though.
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Old 12-06-2012, 05:23 PM   #116
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I got it, still have the draft, still have workouts, not practice someone could get hurt, then each week have something the equivalent of a rookie combine. Based on the results of this combine they basically make odds as to which team should win the game. Now based on that percentage, they do something the equivalent of flipping a coin, but have it weighted based on the results of the combine for that week. We no longer waste 3 hours of everyone's time watching the game, and no one should get seriously injured; however, you keep the players skills, the gm, the coaches, and all of that still involved in the outcome of the game.

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Old 12-06-2012, 05:24 PM   #117
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Old 12-06-2012, 05:28 PM   #118
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Uh no. With the current BS they have done to kickoffs, I would be fine with them just giving the opposing team the ball on the 20 after scores though.
Then there's no chance to get the ball back like an onside kick. There would be no comebacks.
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Then there's no chance to get the ball back like an onside kick. There would be no comebacks.
I want them to move the ball back to the 30 again. I'm just saying they neutered the kickoff this year.
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Old 12-06-2012, 05:43 PM   #120
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The 4th and 15 idea is horrific.


I can't imagine how many times we would see Brady/Manning get a defensive holding call or PI call to allow them a chance to win the game.
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