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Old 09-20-2012, 10:55 AM  
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Old 12-06-2012, 01:05 PM   #76
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Can you imagine how bad the jury questioning of Abi would go? That in itself would keep Abi from winning.

Order of most pobable to win:
Malcom
Skupin
Denise
Lisa
Abi

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Old 12-06-2012, 02:02 PM   #77
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The ONLY reason to keep Abi around last night over Carter is each and every one of the "FOUR" is having second thoughts about their alliance and want to bring Abi to the final 3 because everyone hates her.

And what the heck is the deal with moms wrapping their legs around their kids when getting hugged?
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Old 12-06-2012, 02:37 PM   #78
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Can you imagine how bad the jury questioning of Abi would go? That in itself would keep Abi from winning.

Order of most pobable to win:
Malcom
Skupin
Denise
Lisa
Abi
I remember a season where the loudmouth lady that was pretty rude to everyone was looked at as a very safe goat to bring to the finals. Wait, it was actually 2 seasons with the same loudmouth rude lady.
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Old 12-06-2012, 05:23 PM   #79
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The ONLY reason to keep Abi around last night over Carter is each and every one of the "FOUR" is having second thoughts about their alliance and want to bring Abi to the final 3 because everyone hates her.
The other reason would be the quite reasonable fear that Carter would win every single remaining challenge.
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Old 12-06-2012, 07:36 PM   #80
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The other reason would be the quite reasonable fear that Carter would win every single remaining challenge.
Indeed. That and him maybe getting the votes as the one nobody disliked or was jealous of.

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Malcolm hit the nail on the head when he said he may of made a mistake letting Lisa's brother stay the night because he would have a calming effect on her and could get her to play intelligently.

If Malcolm was ever a real target because he is a strong player/popular, etc., why didn't the target move to Denise who seems to be in the exact same situation as Malcolm, plus she has/had the disadvantage of never having an idol?
I thought it would be the automatic play.

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Lisa is a complete hypocrite. She says she votes one way in order to be loyal and not go back on her word (see Penner). Yet the next day she's talking about voting out Malcolm.
I don't know. She has been pretty open about not knowing what she is doing. Going back and forth would show that. She wanted to go with Penner and he told her he didn't want to make an alliance. I don't really see that as going against her word. Voting out Malcolm came after her brother told her to play the game inside the rules of the game, not the rules of society(in her eyes).

If Denise wants to win she needs to get Malcolm out or something. She will be fighting the "follower" card in the final 3 if she doesn't. I would think they will go after Denise if she doesn't win immunity this week.

I also agree even if Abby gets her 2 alliance votes she could never handle herself in front of the jury. She really hasn't gotten roasted aside from the one time. The rest has been her being dramatic.
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Old 12-07-2012, 08:47 AM   #81
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RC is the only person that Abi had any hand in putting in the jury. Everyone else was put there by the current power alliance. The jury doesn't forget that. The final vote isn't about who played the best or who deserves it the most, even as much as they like to pretend it is. It's about getting revenge on whoever kicked you out.

Sandra was the same "grumpy around camp/she'll never get votes" type player, and she won.

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Old 12-07-2012, 08:50 AM   #82
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Did Lisa ever get "outed" yet as a former Star? I remember the older guy was the only guy who recognized who she was at first.

I say this because if the others knew, usually they are more inclined to vote someone like that out early.
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Old 12-07-2012, 02:17 PM   #83
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RC is the only person that Abi had any hand in putting in the jury. Everyone else was put there by the current power alliance. The jury doesn't forget that. The final vote isn't about who played the best or who deserves it the most, even as much as they like to pretend it is. It's about getting revenge on whoever kicked you out.

Sandra was the same "grumpy around camp/she'll never get votes" type player, and she won.

Twice.
Abby's alliance had a say in some of them, I don't think they would look it only being Mike that did it to them. She was a bitch to a lot of them and her alliance ruled like obnoxious dick heads all the while voting some of the jury out. The jury doesn't always vote with spite, it really depends. Carter even seemed semi-understanding during his confessional after he got voted out. I can't see her ever having enough votes.
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Old 12-07-2012, 02:18 PM   #84
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Did Lisa ever get "outed" yet as a former Star? I remember the older guy was the only guy who recognized who she was at first.

I say this because if the others knew, usually they are more inclined to vote someone like that out early.
I think only Skupin and Penner know. Maybe Jeff, I can't remember. I doubt either Skupin or Penner would. Penner did get mad at her for bailing on her alliance but he also did say that it was his fault for not choosing a side. In the end I would be surprised if he blew up her spot.
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Old 12-07-2012, 02:30 PM   #85
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Abby's alliance had a say in some of them, I don't think they would look it only being Mike that did it to them. She was a bitch to a lot of them and her alliance ruled like obnoxious dick heads all the while voting some of the jury out. The jury doesn't always vote with spite, it really depends. Carter even seemed semi-understanding during his confessional after he got voted out. I can't see her ever having enough votes.
RC was first, and she actually only went because Penner played his idol.

Jeff was next, and he went home because Penner didn't vote the way he said he would, which screwed up the numbers.

The next out was Artis, which was the blindside that ended any power Abi had.

2 people can blame Abi for their leaving, and those are stretches, to be honest. By comparison, every person on the jury can blame Skupin and Lisa for putting them there, and all but Jeff can blame Malcolm and Denise.
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Old 12-07-2012, 07:31 PM   #86
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RC was first, and she actually only went because Penner played his idol.

Jeff was next, and he went home because Penner didn't vote the way he said he would, which screwed up the numbers.

The next out was Artis, which was the blindside that ended any power Abi had.

2 people can blame Abi for their leaving, and those are stretches, to be honest. By comparison, every person on the jury can blame Skupin and Lisa for putting them there, and all but Jeff can blame Malcolm and Denise.
True. I still can not see them voting for her. In the end I see Penner and Jeff voting for the deserving player(unless Jeff is looking at Skupin being that). Jury members don't always vote for people that didn't vote them out. Depends on the person and the feel of the season. I really don't see Abi beating anybody.
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Old 12-09-2012, 06:54 AM   #87
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I don't know. She has been pretty open about not knowing what she is doing. Going back and forth would show that. She wanted to go with Penner and he told her he didn't want to make an alliance. I don't really see that as going against her word. Voting out Malcolm came after her brother told her to play the game inside the rules of the game, not the rules of society(in her eyes).
Here reason for NOT voting with Penner was that she wanted to keep her word to Malcolm & Denise. Then the very next week she wanted to vote out Malcolm. Brother or not, that's hypocritical. You're either the playing the game or you aren't.
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Here reason for NOT voting with Penner was that she wanted to keep her word to Malcolm & Denise. Then the very next week she wanted to vote out Malcolm. Brother or not, that's hypocritical. You're either the playing the game or you aren't.
She has been all over the map, no doubt about it. I still think she has been honest enough to their faces that she would have a chance of surviving that in the jury questioning. I'm sure she would be grilled about it but I don't think it would cost her going up against Abi. However, she might lose to the other person because of it.
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Thought Denise was going to go home. Abi taking the strategy to a new level with the name calling. If neither Denise or Malcolm win immunity its going to be a very interesting scramble. I have enjoyed this season. Certainly has had some unique people.
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I was amazed at one of Skupin's comments, about Carter getting voted off: "He really took it personal."

Poor grammar aside, his did he expect Carter to take it? He's been out there for 30-some days trying to make it to the end, of course he would take it personally when someone ends that chance for him.

I think that people really never think about the cost of blindsides in the game. When you get control of the game and vote out your "enemies," it's expected, and they often can end up respecting you and voting for you if you make the final 2/3. When you turn on your friends and vote them out before it's completely necessary, you are making enemies on the jury far worse. Everyone talks about "bitter juries" but it's human nature to seek revenge on someone who betrayed you.
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