Doctor Says Genetically Modified Wheat a Perfect, Chronic Poison

[KILLER_CLOWN]

Doctor Says Genetically Modified Wheat a Perfect, Chronic Poison

Wednesday, December 5, 2012 11:35

By Lisa Garber
theintelhub.com
December 5, 2012

Many of us are shunning wheat for lots of reasons, but we usually cite gluten as the culprit. Cardiologist and author Dr. William Davis, however, says it’s not gluten that makes modern wheat a “perfect, chronic poison.” It’s the fact that genetically modified wheat has become the wheat we know today.

Davis spoke on “CBS This Morning” earlier this year about one of agribusiness’s biggest creations—the word “creation” not used lightly.
Genetically Modified Wheat – Increased Appetite, Altered Genome

“[Modern wheat is] an 18-inch tall plant created by genetic research in the ‘60s and ‘70s This thing has many new features nobody told you about, such as there’s a new protein in this thing called gliadin. It’s not gluten. I’m not addressing people with gluten sensitivities and celiac disease. I’m talking about everybody else because everybody else is susceptible to the gliadin protein that is an opiate. This thing binds into the opiate receptors in your brain and in most people stimulates appetite, such that we consume 440 more calories per day, 365 days per year.”

Increasing hankerings and padding on pounds aren’t all genetically modified wheat is capable of doing. A new GM wheat in development by the Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation (CIRO), an Australian governmental research agency, may permanently alter the genes of the humans and animals that consume it.

“Through ingestion,” says Professor Jack Heinemann of the University of Canterbury Centre for Integrated Research in Biosafety, “these olecules can enter human beings and potentially silence our genes.” The double stranded RNAs present in this genetically modified wheat would also survive cooking, digestion, and generations of life.

But what about all the hype over whole grains? Several health resources like the Mayo Clinic advocate ditching white wheat for less processed varieties, but Davis claims that is like replacing unfiltered with filtered cigarettes.GM Whole Grains Like Filtered Cigarettes

“That’s the logic of nutrition; it’s a deeply flawed logic.”

Instead of genetically modified wheat, Davis advocates eating “real foods” like avocados, olives, olive oil, eats, and vegetables. While Davis does tell consumers to favor food least likely to be changed by agribusiness, the CBS source, unfortunately, does not directly address variables like organic and small-scale farming versus conventionally raised and pesticide-drenched vegetables or pasture-raised versus factory-farmed meats.
GM Not the Answer to Feeding the Nation

Genetically modified foods pose a threat to people (not just consumers), animals, and the planet Pesticides for GM corn pollute our water and often contaminate organic products. Although the issue of feeding the world is a complex and emotional one, GM food—and the poisoning of entire populations of people—is not the answer.

http://naturalsociety.com/gm-wheat-p...-human-genome/

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505269_1...n-doctor-says/

http://naturalsociety.com/genetically-modified-foods/

http://naturalsociety.com/insecticid...lluting-water/

http://naturalsociety.com/organic-fo...os-pesticides/

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative...n-2508446.html

[BucEyedPea]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

"Modern" wheat came to the US in the early 1800s IIRC, and that's after the Russians had been growing it forever. Most likely the reason you're not allergic to "spelt" is because it is a different plant. Not because it is GM.

Um, I said it had been altered. To my knowledge not all wheat is GMO yet. And no, spelt is not just a different plant. It's the forerunner to modern wheat, a sub-species and an ancient grain. I believe it once grew wild.

Spelt (Triticum aestivum var. spelta) is a sub-species of common wheat

http://www.heirloom-organics.com/gui...wingspelt.html

Spelt is an ancient grain that traces its heritage back long before many wheat hybrids. Many of its benefits come from this fact: it offers a broader spectrum of nutrients compared to many of its more inbred cousins in the Triticum (wheat) family. Spelt features a host of different nutrients. It is an excellent source of manganese, and a good source of protein, copper, and zinc.

http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?t...spice&dbid=143

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by Fish

Also.... the wheat genome is already mapped. I thought that was the reason this fearmonger article was released...

**** yeah I didn't know they finally made some headway on this. When the Kansas Wheat Commission told us they were close, I thought, "yeah right. And I'm close to banging Olivia Wilde, I just need some more funding."

Maybe I should call Olivia Wilde.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

USDA are the last people I'd trust for information on this. Even the govt food pyramid is bogus.

It's not just the USDA announcing this dummy. Do a search on it.

http://www.wheatgenome.org/

I have a friend at K-State that's been working on this(http://www.k-state.edu/wgrc/). The sequencing project has been undertaken by a huge consortium of agro biologists from all over the world. There's an infinite amount of data available on this.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

Even the govt food pyramid is bogus.

That much is certainly true.

[BucEyedPea]

Originally Posted by Fish

It's not just the USDA announcing this dummy. Do a search on it.

http://www.wheatgenome.org/

I have a friend at K-State that's been working on this. The sequencing project has been undertaken by a huge consortium of agro biologists from all over the world. There's an infinite amount of data available on this.

I'll go by my allergy-specialist and nutrition trained doctor, instead of some "state" school or global consortium that into genetic modifications. I think nature does a better job. Thank you.

Although, I don't see what that has to do with originally saying wheat has been altered. This site is advocating more human intervention.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

Um, I said it had been altered. To my knowledge not all wheat is GMO yet. And no, spelt is not just a different plant. It's the forerunner to modern wheat, a sub-species and an ancient grain. I believe it once grew wild.



http://www.heirloom-organics.com/gui...wingspelt.html



http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?t...spice&dbid=143

It's a different plant. Hell it looks more like joint grass than wheat. And if you look at the wiki entry, it was hybridized from other grasses. It is no different than the wheat we have now. You just happen to not be allergic to it.

And how do you know you're allergic to all modern wheat? Is it hard red winter? Hard white winter? Spring hard wheat? Spring soft wheat? All of these things are actual wheats. And you're sure you're allergic to all of them?

Look. You found a plant that you're allergic to the seeds from. You found a different plant that you're not allergic to the seeds from. That's all that's going on here.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

I'll go by my allergy-specialist and nutrition trained doctor. Thank you.

Of course.... You know one doctor that said something that goes against accepted scientific knowledge, and you base your truth on that. Shocker...

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

I'll go by my allergy-specialist and nutrition trained doctor, instead of some "state" school. Thank you.

KSU, Texas A&M, and to a lesser extent Oklahoma State have most of the talent involving wheat gentics in the US. In fact, before Monsanto and Syngenta got in the game a decade or so ago, ALL OF THE WHEAT IN THE NATION came from "state" schools. Wheat genetics for a long time were considered public information and couldn't be privatized.

JFC.

And for ****s ****ing sake, he's an ALLERGY doctor trained in NUTRION. And you're thinking he knows more about wheat than "state" schools who are responsible for about 85% of the wheat genetics in the country?

My god. Why the **** do I post in the DC?

[BucEyedPea]

Originally Posted by Fish

Of course.... You know one doctor that said something that goes against accepted scientific knowledge, and you base your truth on that. Shocker...

No, I go by "accepted" scientific knowledge of those in the field of natural health. Just because something is "accepted" by the "accepted" doesn't mean it's correct. I am happy there are places that reject them, and sell, what I consider,are better, safer and healthier alternatives. We each can do our own valuing so long as there are free-markets that provide choices.

Feel free to rely on those who pushed low-fat high-carb diets resulting in obesity and an increase of diabetes. I go by results.

[BucEyedPea]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

KSU, Texas A&M, and to a lesser extent Oklahoma State have most of the talent involving wheat gentics in the US. In fact, before Monsanto and Syngenta got in the game a decade or so ago, ALL OF THE WHEAT IN THE NATION came from "state" schools. Wheat genetics for a long time were considered public information and couldn't be privatized.

Well there you go. You've proved my point. Now gluten free foods are the rage. ( Yes I know spelt has gluten in it but it is safe from some.)
There's gotta be a reason for the nervous laugh.

And for ****s ****ing sake, he's an ALLERGY doctor trained in NUTRION. And you're thinking he knows more about wheat than "state" schools who are responsible for about 85% of the wheat genetics in the country?

My god. Why the **** do I post in the DC?

It's a "she" and she got results where mainstream doctors failed to. I will go by results. You can go by state-funded think or group-think. I'll make my own choices.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

No, I go by "accepted" scientific knowledge of those in the field of natural health. Just because something is "accepted" by the "accepted" doesn't mean it's correct. I am happy there are places that reject them, and sell, what I consider,are better, safer and healthier alternatives. We each can do our own valuing so long as there are free-markets that provide choices.

Feel free to rely on those who pushed low-fat high-carb diets resulting in obesity and an increase of diabetes. I go by results.

I'm not going to argue that a grain free diet can have some health benefits.

But don't come in here and say that "new" wheat is bad because you found some "old" wheat at some overpriced health food store that you're not allergic to when the fact of the matter is that it is a hybrid and hasn't been developed or grown any ****ing different than the "new" wheat.

All you've done is found a species of plant that produces a seed that you're not allergic to.

But go ahead. Say all wheat is bad. Farmers are evil. Everything is a conspiracy. We're all going to ****ing die. All because you found a plant that produces a seed you're not allergic to.

[BucEyedPea]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

It's a different plant. Hell it looks more like joint grass than wheat. And if you look at the wiki entry, it was hybridized from other grasses. It is no different than the wheat we have now. You just happen to not be allergic to it.

It is different. Wiki is only good for a starting point. It isn't always good enough since anyone can edit it. But it also mentions coming from wild goat-grass too.

And how do you know you're allergic to all modern wheat? Is it hard red winter? Hard white winter? Spring hard wheat? Spring soft wheat? All of these things are actual wheats. And you're sure you're allergic to all of them?

Blood tests. Only spelt I don't react to.

Look. You found a plant that you're allergic to the seeds from. You found a different plant that you're not allergic to the seeds from. That's all that's going on here.

That's why it has the word Triticum in them.

Look. We disagree.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

No, I go by "accepted" scientific knowledge of those in the field of natural health. Just because something is "accepted" by the "accepted" doesn't mean it's correct. I am happy there are places that reject them, and sell, what I consider,are better, safer and healthier alternatives. We each can do our own valuing so long as there are free-markets that provide choices.

Feel free to rely on those who pushed low-fat high-carb diets resulting in obesity and an increase of diabetes. I go by results.

You are simply hilarious....

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

Well there you go. You've proved my point. Now gluten free foods are the rage. ( Yes I know spelt has gluten in it but it is safe from some.)
There's gotta be a reason for the nervous laugh.


It's a "she" and she got results where mainstream doctors failed to. I will go by results. You can go by state-funded think or group-think. I'll make my own choices.

Nervous? I'm laughing because you said your ALLERGY doctors know more about wheat than the wheat breeders. That level of stupid is legitmately funny.

The bottom line is you found a plant that produces a seed you're not allergic to and then extrapolated that to "the entire food industry is evil" and call anything else group think or lemmings, or whatever else is the hippie thing to say.

[BucEyedPea]

Okay, you guys are into university research.

This is what The University of Vermont says about spelt:

Spelt is a grain that has come up in recent discussions about whole grains. Spelt is an ancient grain that dates back to the Neolithic era (The New Stone Age), 10,000 B.C. Spelt is one of the three ancient wheat varieties; the other two ancient varieties are emmer and einkorn. What a history! These grains grew wild and once people figured out that they could plant the seeds, communities were formed and ended some of the nomadic wandering in search of food.

http://www.uvm.edu/extension/?Page=n...gory=extension

Wilder versions of plant foods are considered healthier by natural health folks, as they are less man-made and more natural.