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Doctor Says Genetically Modified Wheat a Perfect, Chronic Poison

Doctor Says Genetically Modified Wheat a Perfect, Chronic Poison

Wednesday, December 5, 2012 11:35

By Lisa Garber
theintelhub.com
December 5, 2012

Many of us are shunning wheat for lots of reasons, but we usually cite gluten as the culprit. Cardiologist and author Dr. William Davis, however, says it’s not gluten that makes modern wheat a “perfect, chronic poison.” It’s the fact that genetically modified wheat has become the wheat we know today.

Davis spoke on “CBS This Morning” earlier this year about one of agribusiness’s biggest creations—the word “creation” not used lightly.
Genetically Modified Wheat – Increased Appetite, Altered Genome

“[Modern wheat is] an 18-inch tall plant created by genetic research in the ‘60s and ‘70s This thing has many new features nobody told you about, such as there’s a new protein in this thing called gliadin. It’s not gluten. I’m not addressing people with gluten sensitivities and celiac disease. I’m talking about everybody else because everybody else is susceptible to the gliadin protein that is an opiate. This thing binds into the opiate receptors in your brain and in most people stimulates appetite, such that we consume 440 more calories per day, 365 days per year.”

Increasing hankerings and padding on pounds aren’t all genetically modified wheat is capable of doing. A new GM wheat in development by the Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation (CIRO), an Australian governmental research agency, may permanently alter the genes of the humans and animals that consume it.

“Through ingestion,” says Professor Jack Heinemann of the University of Canterbury Centre for Integrated Research in Biosafety, “these olecules can enter human beings and potentially silence our genes.” The double stranded RNAs present in this genetically modified wheat would also survive cooking, digestion, and generations of life.

But what about all the hype over whole grains? Several health resources like the Mayo Clinic advocate ditching white wheat for less processed varieties, but Davis claims that is like replacing unfiltered with filtered cigarettes.GM Whole Grains Like Filtered Cigarettes

“That’s the logic of nutrition; it’s a deeply flawed logic.”

Instead of genetically modified wheat, Davis advocates eating “real foods” like avocados, olives, olive oil, eats, and vegetables. While Davis does tell consumers to favor food least likely to be changed by agribusiness, the CBS source, unfortunately, does not directly address variables like organic and small-scale farming versus conventionally raised and pesticide-drenched vegetables or pasture-raised versus factory-farmed meats.
GM Not the Answer to Feeding the Nation

Genetically modified foods pose a threat to people (not just consumers), animals, and the planet Pesticides for GM corn pollute our water and often contaminate organic products. Although the issue of feeding the world is a complex and emotional one, GM food—and the poisoning of entire populations of people—is not the answer.

http://naturalsociety.com/gm-wheat-p...-human-genome/

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505269_1...n-doctor-says/

http://naturalsociety.com/genetically-modified-foods/

http://naturalsociety.com/insecticid...lluting-water/

http://naturalsociety.com/organic-fo...os-pesticides/

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative...n-2508446.html
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Old 12-07-2012, 11:49 AM   #61
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You are simply hilarious....
Thank you for conceding.
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Old 12-07-2012, 11:49 AM   #62
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If CSIRO was serious about these claims, they would release the details of its testing, right? If this were really a "Perfect Chronic Poison" being introduced to our food supply, they'd share all their info as soon as possible so action could be taken to prevent death, right? But they haven't, and they won't, because it's nothing but a BS scare tactic.
you are probably right about the article being BS. But they sure as hell wouldn't alert people if it really would kill. In fact, they would do everything that they could to cover it up and would do it again for profits.
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Old 12-07-2012, 11:49 AM   #63
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It is different. Wiki is only good for a starting point. It isn't always good enough since anyone can edit it. But it also mentions coming from wild goat-grass too.



Blood tests. Only spelt I don't react to.



That's why it has the word Triticum in them.

Look. We disagree.
I said I didn't care enough to do the research. It's a different plant. It puts on a different seed.

We can disagree, that's fine. But you're assertion that modern wheat is bad because it isn't like an entirely different plant and that somehow the food industry is bad as a result of it is just asinine.
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Okay, you guys are into university research.

This is what The University of Vermont says about spelt:




http://www.uvm.edu/extension/?Page=n...gory=extension
Extension is what you come up with? And you think Wiki is a bad source?

Look. It is a different plant. Just based on a google image search, there are enough phynological differences in the plants to wheat to know it is not wheat.

Hell, Winter wheat and Spring wheat are different enough to be different species.

This is a different plant. That you're not allergic to. Goody.
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Old 12-07-2012, 11:55 AM   #65
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Nervous? I'm laughing because you said your ALLERGY doctors know more about wheat than the wheat breeders. That level of stupid is legitmately funny.
She knows food and allergies and knows it's an ancient grain. Natural health practitioners lean toward original wild version of food being better for you. This includes cows or cattle once ate wild grasses that had wild herbs among them to handle disease. It means wild salmon not farm raised having more nutrients in it for you.

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The bottom line is you found a plant that produces a seed you're not allergic to and then extrapolated that to "the entire food industry is evil" and call anything else group think or lemmings, or whatever else is the hippie thing to say.
No I didn't find anything. I was sick and no pathology showed with mainstream blood work. I had blood work re-done looking for other things. Spelt was suggested as a safer alternative after extensive blood work ( dipping my blood into 40 different foods). I tried it and it worked. No reaction. I was originally told it was a wild grain.
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Old 12-07-2012, 11:57 AM   #66
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Look. It is a different plant. Just based on a google image search, there are enough phynological differences in the plants to wheat to know it is not wheat.

Hell, Winter wheat and Spring wheat are different enough to be different species.

This is a different plant. That you're not allergic to. Goody.
Different plant but still a type of wheat.
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Also the same is true for milk. Raw milk contains enzymes that help one digest it. It's good for you. Pasteurization kills these enzymes. Now we have so many allergies or intolerance to dairy. Yet it's illegal in the states. That's govt for you. It's not that milk per se is bad—it's what's been done to it.

Yeah, yeah, I know spare me all the dire warnings about safety. It should still be allowed as it is in other countries with some safeguards. So longer as people want to take their own chances. It's another over-processed food that's been made "safer." LOL!
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She knows food and allergies and knows it's an ancient grain. Natural health practitioners lean toward original wild version of food being better for you. This includes cows or cattle once ate wild grasses that had wild herbs among them to handle disease. It means wild salmon not farm raised having more nutrients in it for you.



No I didn't find anything. I was sick and no pathology showed with mainstream blood work. I had blood work re-done looking for other things. Spelt was suggested as a safer alternative after extensive blood work ( dipping my blood into 40 different foods). I tried it and it worked. No reaction. I was originally told it was a wild grain.
It's all BS. Eat spelt if it works for you. But don't tell me that my wheat is bad because it is not like a different plant that you're not allergic to.
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Extension is what you come up with? And you think Wiki is a bad source?

Look. It is a different plant. Just based on a google image search, there are enough phynological differences in the plants to wheat to know it is not wheat.

Hell, Winter wheat and Spring wheat are different enough to be different species.

This is a different plant. That you're not allergic to. Goody.
No, it was a university, which is what you guys were citing as reliable. Just using one of your own.
This, however, matches what my doc told me about it once growing wild.
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Different plant but still a type of wheat.
I bet you could make some good bread from Downy Brome



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Or some feral rye grass



Then you'd be good and organic. And you could even harvest your own from the ditches.

All types of wheat by your definition. That's why they are so hard to kill in a wheat field. But they are still different plants that put off a different seed that any one person may or may not be allergic to.
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It's all BS. Eat spelt if it works for you. But don't tell me that my wheat is bad because it is not like a different plant that you're not allergic to.
This is the second post where you've put words into my posts I did not use, such as "wheat is bad". I did not make a blanket generality but a specific statement about the rise in allergies.

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Yes....but I suspect the reason for the rise in gluten intolerance or wheat allergies has to do with how it's been altered.
Let me know when you can read instead creating a bunch of straw man arguments.
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No, it was a university, which is what you guys were citing as reliable. Just using one of your own.
This, however, matches what my doc told me about it once growing wild.
I'm just stacking shit on you. But be it known that there is a MAJOR difference between a university study and extension publications.
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I'm just stacking shit on you. But be it known that there is a MAJOR difference between a university study and extension publications.
Yet, it was published on a university site. They must have thought something of it to post that it once grew wild.<---- the latter being the reason I used it. It matched what my doctor told me.
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Thank you for conceding.
Yeah, that's how a crazy person justifies their crazy thinking. You win.
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Whoosh! The point went over your head.
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