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Old 12-06-2012, 11:32 AM  
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Goodell considering doing away with kickoffs

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...ating-kickoffs

When the NFL changed the line of scrimmage for kickoffs to increase touchbacks, New England Patriots coach Bill Belichick derisively said that it was only a matter of time before the NFL eliminated kickoffs entirely. He believed that's what the NFL wanted to do.

Belichick might wind up being proven right.

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NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said that he's taken it under consideration to remove the kickoff entirely.

"It's an off-the-wall idea. It's different and makes you think differently. It did me," Goodell told TIME in a cover story for the Dec. 17 issue.

Even more intriguing is an alternative concept promoted by Tampa Bay Buccaneers coach Greg Schiano. Goodell met with the NFL competition committee chairman about the concept.

"After a touchdown or field goal, instead of kicking off, a team would get the ball on its own 30-yard line, where it's fourth and 15," TIME's Sean Gregory writes. "The options are either to go for it and try to retain possession or punt. If you go for it and fall short, of course, the opposing team would take over with good field position. In essence, a punt replaces the kickoffs."

It's an interesting idea. We haven't seen the numbers that punts are that much safer than kickoffs, but the NFL must have the data to support the notion if they were considering it.

The implications for strategy are even more intriguing. If a team is trailing by more than one score very late in the fourth quarter, they likely would to try to go for it on fourth-and-15 instead of punting. That's not an easy situation to convert, but the concept would still make it easier to make a comeback without ever giving the ball back to an opponent.
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Old 12-07-2012, 12:52 PM   #226
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Did anybody even look at what was being proposed?
Yes. It's called garbage.
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Old 12-07-2012, 12:57 PM   #227
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You're not eliminating special teams. You're replacing a kickoff with a punt.

Did anybody even look at what was being proposed?
You really need to stop trying to sell this turd. You're a lot smarter than that.
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Old 12-07-2012, 12:57 PM   #228
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Yes. It's called garbage.
Well, the alternative is no kickoff or punt of any kind.

I realize people don't want football to change but the cold, hard reality is that it is GOING TO, whether we want it to or not.

In that vein, we should all be open to exploring alternatives that maintain some semblance of the game we know today.

Or we can cross our arms, reject all change, and then bitch when they outlaw tackling and make them use flags...
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Old 12-07-2012, 12:58 PM   #229
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You really need to stop trying to sell this turd. You're a lot smarter than that.
See my response to Dave.

You can't stop the changes that are coming. Our only hope as fans is to steer them...
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Old 12-07-2012, 12:59 PM   #230
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Well, the alternative is no kickoff or punt of any kind.

I realize people don't want football to change but the cold, hard reality is that it is GOING TO, whether we want it to or not.

In that vein, we should all be open to exploring alternatives that maintain some semblance of the game we know today.

Or we can cross our arms, reject all change, and then bitch when they outlaw tackling and make them use flags...
Nah. I think I'll just stop watching it. It already sucks and they're seemingly in a race to make it even worse.
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Old 12-07-2012, 01:02 PM   #231
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Nah. I think I'll just stop watching it. It already sucks and they're seemingly in a race to make it even worse.
That's certainly a viable alternative.

I just don't get the outrage over KICKOFFS.

People bitch about kickers all the time. FG suck. Touchbacks suck.

But when they propose replacing the kickoff, people go all "bah, what are they doing? next thing you know they'll get rid of leather helmets."

It's silly.
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Old 12-07-2012, 01:06 PM   #232
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That's certainly a viable alternative.

I just don't get the outrage over KICKOFFS.

People bitch about kickers all the time. FG suck. Touchbacks suck.

But when they propose replacing the kickoff, people go all "bah, what are they doing? next thing you know they'll get rid of leather helmets."

It's silly.
Really, you're going to compare equipment upgrades to removing something that's been an integral part of the game for 100 years? Speaking of silly.
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Old 12-07-2012, 01:11 PM   #233
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Really, you're going to compare equipment upgrades to removing something that's been an integral part of the game for 100 years? Speaking of silly.
I made an absurd comparison on purpose.

The ONLY reason people are complaining is for that VERY reason - it's always been that way.

There's been no consideration of how utterly useless the kickoff is in the modern game.

Only that we can't change it because "it's been an integral part of the game for 100 years".
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Old 12-07-2012, 01:14 PM   #234
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We need to find a way for the players to not get injured.

Submit new rules so we can send them to the comish for consideration.

1. If you run the 40 in less than 5.0 seconds you cannot participate in the league. Speed kills.
2. If you can catch a ball that is cranked out of a juggs machine at 100 MPH you cannot play in the league.
3. If you can throw the football further down-field than 30 yards you cannot play in the game (Cassel is safe).

Got any good ones to suggest?

Who'd of ever thought the game of football would be bastardized so far down that the games would be changed so much they would look like the last "Pro-Bowl"?
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Old 12-07-2012, 01:14 PM   #235
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I made an absurd comparison on purpose.

The ONLY reason people are complaining is for that VERY reason - it's always been that way.

There's been no consideration of how utterly useless the kickoff is in the modern game.

Only that we can't change it because "it's been an integral part of the game for 100 years".
It's only useless because they made it useless. If the argument is "kickoffs are too dangerous", then the argument will inevitably become "tackle football is too dangerous", and the game is doomed anyway. It's already being talked about, so why am I going to waste my time on a doomed game?
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Old 12-07-2012, 01:14 PM   #236
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It's only useless because they made it useless. If the argument is "kickoffs are too dangerous", then the argument will inevitably become "tackle football is too dangerous", and the game is doomed anyway. It's already being talked about, so why am I going to waste my time on a doomed game?
Very good point.
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Old 12-07-2012, 01:25 PM   #237
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In general, I think keeping it the way it is, or even moving the ko line back to its old spot would be my preference. But I woukdnt really mind this 4th and 15 idea. A blocked punt or a 4th a 15 conversion is WAY more exciting than an onsides kick. And both are way more likely. Not to mention the better field position that most drives would start with, and the practical elimination of the touchback to start a drive, which is the most boring thing to watch in the NFL. And there will still be plenty of kicks returned for a td. I'm starting to like this idea the more I think about it.
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Old 12-07-2012, 01:26 PM   #238
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In general, I think keeping it the way it is, or even moving the ko line back to its old spot would be my preference. But I woukdnt really mind this 4th and 15 idea. A blocked punt or a 4th a 15 conversion is WAY more exciting than an onsides kick. And both are way more likely. Not to mention the better field position that most drives would start with, and the practical elimination of the touchback to start a drive, which is the most boring thing to watch in the NFL. And there will still be plenty of kicks returned for a td. I'm starting to like this idea the more I think about it.
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Old 12-07-2012, 01:38 PM   #239
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Really, you're going to compare equipment upgrades to removing something that's been an integral part of the game for 100 years? Speaking of silly.
So has the extra point. It is pointless as well.

I agree with you they should move it back but if they aren't going to do that might as well try something else.
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So has the extra point. It is pointless as well.
So make it harder.
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