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Old 03-08-2012, 11:50 AM  
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Neighborhood watch captain shoots innocent black youth and doesn't even get arrested

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ORLANDO, Florida (Reuters) - The family of a 17-year-old African-American boy shot to death last month in his gated Florida community by a white Neighborhood Watch captain wants to see the captain arrested, the family's lawyer said on Wednesday.

Trayvon Martin was shot dead after he took a break from watching NBA All-Star game television coverage to walk 10 minutes to a convenience store to buy snacks including Skittles candy requested by his 13-year-old brother, Chad, the family's lawyer Ben Crump said.

"He was a good kid," Crump said in an interview, adding that the family would issue a call for the Watch captain's arrest at a news conference on Thursday. "On his way home, a Neighborhood Watch loose cannon shot and killed him."

[Related: Fla. teen avoids deportation]

Trayvon, who lived in Miami with his mother, had been visiting his father and stepmother in a gated townhome community called The Retreat at Twin Lakes in Sanford, 20 miles north of Orlando.

As Trayvon returned to the townhome, Sanford police received a 911 call reporting a suspicious person.

Although names are blacked out on the police report, Crump and media reports at the time of the shooting identified the caller as George Zimmerman who is listed in the community's newsletter as the Neighborhood Watch captain.

Without waiting for police to arrive, Crump said, Zimmerman confronted Trayvon, who was on the sidewalk near his home. By the time police got there, Trayvon was dead of a single gunshot to the chest.

"What do the police find in his pocket? Skittles," Crump said. "A can of Arizona ice tea in his jacket pocket and Skittles in his front pocket for his brother Chad."

Zimmerman could not be reached for comment on Wednesday evening at a phone number listed for him on the community's newsletter.

Crump said the family was concerned that police might decide to consider the shooting as self defense, and that police have ignored the family's request for a copy of the original 911 call, which they think will shed light on the incidents.

"If the 911 protocol across the country held to form here, they told him not to get involved. He disobeyed that order," said Ryan Julison, a spokesman for the family.

"He (Zimmerman) didn't have to get out of his car," said Crump, who has prepared a public records lawsuit to file on Thursday if the family doesn't get the 911 tape. "If he never gets out of his car, there is no reason for self-defense. Trayvon only has skittles. He has the gun."

Since Trayvon, a high school junior who wanted to be a pilot, was black and Zimmerman is white, Crump said race is "the 600 pound elephant in the room."

"Why is this kid suspicious in the first place? I think a stereotype must have been placed on the kid," Crump said.

(Editing By Cynthia Johnston and Peter Bohan)

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Old 12-09-2012, 11:39 AM   #3586
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What exactly should he do? Just keep walking and pray he doesn't get shot in the back?

That's pretty unreasonable.
Hey Dumbass, the weapon was concealed, at what point did he realize he had a gun? Do you think the dumbass would have busted him in the face knowing he had a gun?

Stick to what is known and quit speculating.
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Old 12-09-2012, 11:46 AM   #3587
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What exactly should he do? Just keep walking and pray he doesn't get shot in the back?

That's pretty unreasonable.
He should keep walking and stay in well lit and/or highly trafficked areas. Praying is optional.

If you're really worried that your potential assailant has a gun, you'd have to be an idiot (or a badass martial arts expert like the characters Jean Claude Van Damme plays) to turn around and initiate a conflict.
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Old 12-09-2012, 11:49 AM   #3588
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I don't carry a gun. If some asshole was following me around you bet your ass I am going to ask him what the **** his problem is. Unless he is a law endorsement officer he will not detain me or question me. In your world that means I deserve to be shot
In my world, you'd be a better reader than you apparently are in your world.

You'd be stupid to confront the guy if you believed he had a gun and an intention to rob or kill you. If you didn't expect a gun, it's still probably foolish, but whatever. I never suggested that you'd deserve to be shot for speaking to the person, but if you attack him, you'll deserve whatever you get as long as he felt like it was necessary self-defense.
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Old 12-09-2012, 11:56 AM   #3589
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In my world, you'd be a better reader than you apparently are in your world.

You'd be stupid to confront the guy if you believed he had a gun and an intention to rob or kill you. If you didn't expect a gun, it's still probably foolish, but whatever. I never suggested that you'd deserve to be shot for speaking to the person, but if you attack him, you'll deserve whatever you get as long as he felt like it was necessary self-defense.
George Zimmerman was in pursuit of a guy he may have thought was armed and on drugs. So are you saying he deserved to get beat up for being stupid too?
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Old 12-09-2012, 12:04 PM   #3590
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George Zimmerman was in pursuit of a guy he may have thought was armed and on drugs. So are you saying he deserved to get beat up for being stupid too?
No, he wasn't unarmed.

I take that back. He might have been stupid (as evidenced by the actual result), but just not as stupid.
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Old 12-09-2012, 12:21 PM   #3591
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No, he wasn't unarmed.

I take that back. He might have been stupid (as evidenced by the actual result), but just not as stupid.
This is assuming Zimmerman was being honest in his testimony that he backed off pursuit. HIs track record makes this story hard to believe. If he egged on a confrontation in any way, then that is stupid AND reckless. Both guys looked like they did stupid and reckless things that night. But I'm again going to point to the fact that this situation would have been avoided if Zimmerman followed basic, basic protocol.
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Old 12-09-2012, 12:23 PM   #3592
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This isn't just some 16 year old kid. This is a known thug who has been suspended from school for drugs and had been caught breaking into lockers with a screwdriver and stealing from them.
Ever the alternate ending of Breakfast Club where John Bender gets shot for trespassing on the football field.?
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Old 12-09-2012, 01:02 PM   #3593
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Ever the alternate ending of Breakfast Club where John Bender gets shot for trespassing on the football field.?
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Old 12-09-2012, 01:05 PM   #3594
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Both sides of this debate have shown poor form. I am glad the thread title was not changed. Those who were desperate to make this a white vs.. black killing like the idiot who started this thread showed their own racism. The kill pinky nonsense was disgusting although fully expected when shitbags like Sharpton and the black panthers are involved. The crowd that feebly wanted this to be an anti gun story failed miserably.

The other side who jumped on the Zimmerman is a hero team should be ashamed of themselves. There is a large group of them who were in a frenzy to cheer a back kid in a hoodie getting shot as some sort of heroic act against thugs are nothing more than racist pricks also. I have read that this kid was no angel but he sure as heck did not need to die. When I was his age I was no angel either, like the song "you don't have to dig to deep to find some dirt on me". If some clown was jacking with me when I was just walking home I can guarantee I would have tried to kicked the guys ass also.

Zimmerman ain't no hero, he went out of his way to confront this kid. I don't have a doubt in my mind if he did not have a gun he would have stayed in his car. I think he is a chickenshit wanna be badass and nothing more. I fully support gun rights and if threatened with no other option shooting someone. He was not threatened until he initiated the confrontation. He should have kept his wanna be cowboy ass in his car and let the police handle this. I don't know how this is going to turn out but forgive me if I pass on cheering for this clown~
I will stick with this as my stance. I will back off and let the Zimmerman groupies cheer away lol
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I will stick with this as my stance. I will back off and let the Zimmerman groupies cheer away lol
You are a bad man , you don't need a gun ever do you? You would rip him apart with your bare hands wouldn't you?
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You are a bad man , you don't need a gun ever do you? You would rip him apart with your bare hands wouldn't you?
I probably wouldn't have been driving around looking for somebody to accost.
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I probably wouldn't have been driving around looking for somebody to accost.
You drive around looking for trouble when your in charge of neighborhood watch you ****ing dumbasses
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Seriously, if you put your hands on me and started beating my head into the ground and I can get to my gun, I am gonna bust multiple caps in your ass ... I am not eating baby food for the rest of my life to protect some thug wanna be gang banger..
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You drive around looking for trouble when your in charge of neighborhood watch you ****ing dumbasses
Neighborhood watch doesn't try to apprehend people, you incredible falling down drunk moron.
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Seriously, if you put your hands on me and started beating my head into the ground and I can get to my gun, I am gonna bust multiple caps in your ass ... I am not eating baby food for the rest of my life to protect some thug wanna be gang banger..
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