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Old 03-08-2012, 11:50 AM  
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Neighborhood watch captain shoots innocent black youth and doesn't even get arrested

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ORLANDO, Florida (Reuters) - The family of a 17-year-old African-American boy shot to death last month in his gated Florida community by a white Neighborhood Watch captain wants to see the captain arrested, the family's lawyer said on Wednesday.

Trayvon Martin was shot dead after he took a break from watching NBA All-Star game television coverage to walk 10 minutes to a convenience store to buy snacks including Skittles candy requested by his 13-year-old brother, Chad, the family's lawyer Ben Crump said.

"He was a good kid," Crump said in an interview, adding that the family would issue a call for the Watch captain's arrest at a news conference on Thursday. "On his way home, a Neighborhood Watch loose cannon shot and killed him."

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Trayvon, who lived in Miami with his mother, had been visiting his father and stepmother in a gated townhome community called The Retreat at Twin Lakes in Sanford, 20 miles north of Orlando.

As Trayvon returned to the townhome, Sanford police received a 911 call reporting a suspicious person.

Although names are blacked out on the police report, Crump and media reports at the time of the shooting identified the caller as George Zimmerman who is listed in the community's newsletter as the Neighborhood Watch captain.

Without waiting for police to arrive, Crump said, Zimmerman confronted Trayvon, who was on the sidewalk near his home. By the time police got there, Trayvon was dead of a single gunshot to the chest.

"What do the police find in his pocket? Skittles," Crump said. "A can of Arizona ice tea in his jacket pocket and Skittles in his front pocket for his brother Chad."

Zimmerman could not be reached for comment on Wednesday evening at a phone number listed for him on the community's newsletter.

Crump said the family was concerned that police might decide to consider the shooting as self defense, and that police have ignored the family's request for a copy of the original 911 call, which they think will shed light on the incidents.

"If the 911 protocol across the country held to form here, they told him not to get involved. He disobeyed that order," said Ryan Julison, a spokesman for the family.

"He (Zimmerman) didn't have to get out of his car," said Crump, who has prepared a public records lawsuit to file on Thursday if the family doesn't get the 911 tape. "If he never gets out of his car, there is no reason for self-defense. Trayvon only has skittles. He has the gun."

Since Trayvon, a high school junior who wanted to be a pilot, was black and Zimmerman is white, Crump said race is "the 600 pound elephant in the room."

"Why is this kid suspicious in the first place? I think a stereotype must have been placed on the kid," Crump said.

(Editing By Cynthia Johnston and Peter Bohan)

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Old 12-09-2012, 01:17 PM   #3601
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Neighborhood watch doesn't try to apprehend people, you incredible falling down drunk moron.
You stupid ****, he didn't try to apprehend him, Trayvon jumped him....

Are you that stupid man?
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Old 12-09-2012, 01:18 PM   #3602
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You stupid ****, he didn't try to apprehend him, Trayvon jumped him....

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Old 12-09-2012, 01:18 PM   #3603
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You stupid ****, he didn't try to apprehend him, Trayvon jumped him....

Are you that stupid man?
Yeah, man, Trayvon reached into his car and pulled him out and proceeded to beat his old fat ass. By all means, rewrite the story to fit your scared, paranoid narrative.
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Old 12-09-2012, 01:19 PM   #3604
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You have to ask?
Coming from a dipshit who can't remember the last time he was right about anything that really means a lot. Got anymore chain emails to post with some stupid comment like "Can't make this stuff up folks"?
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Old 12-09-2012, 01:21 PM   #3605
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You are a bad man , you don't need a gun ever do you? You would rip him apart with your bare hands wouldn't you?
There is a difference between carrying a gun when playing defense and using a gun as a rationale to play aggressive offense.
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Old 12-09-2012, 01:22 PM   #3606
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You stupid ****, he didn't try to apprehend him, Trayvon jumped him....

Are you that stupid man?
Zimmerman was pursuing Trayvon. He admitted it on the phone and even ended up in the courtyard. Don't pin this like Zimmerman was an innocent bystander who happened to get jumped. Trayvon even ran away from him as soon as he spotted Zimmerman in pursuit. These are facts.
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Old 12-09-2012, 01:22 PM   #3607
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Yeah, man, Trayvon reached into his car and pulled him out and proceeded to beat his old fat ass. By all means, rewrite the story to fit your scared, paranoid narrative.
A man 10ft, 100ft or 1000 ft is not a threat to you unless he is pointing a gun at you... What part of your stupid ****ing ass do you not understand about that?

You can not just jump someone and bang their head into the ground and be justified because someone is looking at you...

Now if Z put his hands on the kid he was justified to defend himself... Where have you seen proof that Z put his hands on him to provoke an attack. I don't know how they ****ing do it where you live out there in Meth land, but dirty looks does not warrant felony assault.
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Old 12-09-2012, 01:23 PM   #3608
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Zimmerman was pursuing Trayvon. He admitted it on the phone and even ended up in the courtyard. Don't pin this like Zimmerman was an innocent bystander who happened to get jumped. Trayvon even ran away from him as soon as he spotted Zimmerman in pursuit. These are facts.
So the **** what? It's not illegal to pursue someone especially when you are on duty to watch the neighborhood.
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Old 12-09-2012, 01:28 PM   #3609
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I don't know how they ****ing do it where you live out there in Meth land, but dirty looks does not warrant felony assault.
I don't know how they do it moonshine country but walking down the street doesn't warrant pursuit from an armed civilian.
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I don't know how they do it moonshine country but walking down the street doesn't warrant pursuit from an armed civilian.
Oh? ... How did he know he was armed?
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Old 12-09-2012, 01:29 PM   #3611
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So the **** what? It's not illegal to pursue someone especially when you are on duty to watch the neighborhood.
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/ne...cies--1/nLhqY/

Not illegal. But unbelievably clear violation of protocol.
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"Neighborhood Watch is an observe and report type of program. Neighborhood Watch members are encouraged not to stop and question people, but to observe and report their observations to the Sheriff's Office and a trained officer will respond and investigate the incident." -- Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office
"It should be emphasized to members that they do not possess police powers and they shall not carry weapons or pursue vehicles. They should also be cautioned to alert police or deputies when encountering strange activity. Members should never confront suspicious persons who could be armed and dangerous." -- National Sheriff's Association
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Old 12-09-2012, 01:31 PM   #3612
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http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/ne...cies--1/nLhqY/

Not illegal. But unbelievably clear violation of protocol.
Not on private property.. Wrong Again

Oh so he was a bad community watchman... They should fire him...

WHO THE **** CARES.... it has nothing to do with this case and he is not required by law to follow their protocol
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Old 12-09-2012, 01:31 PM   #3613
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Oh? ... How did he know he was armed?
He likely didn't. But we do and my point being, normal people don't pack heat and follow people walking down the street.
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Old 12-09-2012, 01:33 PM   #3614
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He likely didn't. But we do, and my point being, normal people don't pack heat and follow people walking down the street.
Sure they do, does not mean they are going to shoot them.. Of course the person happens to commit felony assault on them.
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Old 12-09-2012, 01:35 PM   #3615
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Ok you tell me... How many times should Z have let T pound his head into the pavement before defending himself EVEN if he illegally followed him?

Concussion?
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Permanent Brain Damage?
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