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68 | 72.34% |
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8 | 8.51% |
Leave it to the states. Not a federal issue. |
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17 | 18.09% |
GAZ says FU BRC, you are gay |
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1 | 1.06% |
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The government allows for discrinimation against race and gender, for instance, if it fulfills strict scrutiny. I believe it should be the same against sexual orientation. My question basically asks to tell me the constitutional difference between the two. |
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You clearly do not understand what rights are if you think gay people want MORE rights. They don't. That doesn't even make sense. They want to be able to be married, which has never been a "right" for anybody. Where, prey tell, is the amendment allowing for marriage? There isn't one, I'll save you the time. This is a benefit, given by the state to encourage people to have families. Like we also give tax breaks to home owners to encourage people to buy homes. Because happy families in a home are good for society. None of these benefits are RIGHTS. They can be taken off the books right now, if we vote em away. The question is, is it constitutional for the state to discriminate against gays when it comes to one or more of these benefits. It's EXACTLY the same as if we didn't allow gays to buy a home, or to take a home mortgage interest deduction. EXACTLY the same thing. |
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To who?
There's absolutely no constitutional reasoning to differentiate between race and sexual orientation. |
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I mostly could not care less. But it is irksome that it continues to be advocated as an imperative issue of equality, when in fact it's just an incremental extension of inequality to a demographic that is most vocal here and now.
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Being gay doesn't. |
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Explain yourself.
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One couple wants to be treated by the same law that applies to everyone else without regard to their race. The other couple wants a brand new law created to give them special treatment heretofore unavailable to anyone (white, black, heterosexual, homosexual, etc.).
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Your opinion is that people who care should decide this issue, or only people who are affected by this issue should decide this issue?
You've made at least one post in this thread suggesting the latter. |
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I thought it would be understood as I twice already outlined in this very thread the difference between a right to marry and a government responsibility to afford them benefits and recognition. To that end, it seems your latest post above wants to argue with me but are in fact agreeing with me
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I already have many many MANY times in the past.
Not going to go into the detail I have before, but summarize by saying that there are myriad arrangements of consenting adults who don't enjoy the breaks and benefits of a hetero married couple. And I'm not talking man on dog, or man on child. I'm talking about communes, non-sexual best friends, polygamy, communes, groups in nursing homes, sororities and fraternities, even green card marriages. Whomever consenting adults of any size wish to declare committed union with. This isn't making everyone equal, which it should if that's the central argument underlying the effort. It's simply plucking a single additional arrangement of consenting adults from the pool of the myriad and saying 'looks like you're finally tall enough to ride this coaster.'
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To everyone. Some people have strong beliefs in this regard, but are we going to abandon science in favor of strongly held convictions now?
Of course there is. The reconstruction amendments (including, most relevantly, the 14th) were ratified to guarantee equality on the basis of race, not sexual preference. FFS, women's suffrage required an additional amendment.
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