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Old 12-31-2011, 03:52 PM  
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2012 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread

2012 Slogan: Our Time

A better, more accurate 2012 Slogan: It is Finally Next Year
(from Great Expectations)

An alternative slogan if you don't like that one: Someone has to win this crappy division
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With the beginning of a new year, it is time for the 2012 version of the Royals Repository Thread. We've got Hosmer, we've got a 2011-dominating Gordon, we've got Moose, we've got hopefully a killer bullpen, we've got a stereotypical slow slugging DH, we've got easily one of the best defensive shortstops in the AL, we've got a promising catcher in Salvador Perez. Hell, we've got offense and promising prospects galore.

We do not have starting pitching.

Oh yeah, we've also got this:



Get ready for, (as of January 2012 anyway), one of the most confusing puzzles of a baseball season in recent Royals history. Will they suck? Maybe, I don't know. Will we be given a year of 0.500 baseball? Possibly, I don't know. Will they win the division and go to the playoffs for the first time in 27 years? For the first time in a long time, it could happen, I don't know. 92 losses, 92 wins, or anything in between would not surprise a lot of us.

Everything goes here except Gameday threads and really big news. If a giant story breaks, the Royals achieve some awesome milestone, or we sign/lose a highly significant player/coach/mascot/whatever, then it might also deserve its own thread. This being Chiefs Planet, please do not clutter the board with new threads about trivial Royals news or you will only annoy those who come here for just Chiefs football. If you aren't sure and its not a Gameday thread, it goes here.

What sort of stuff often goes here? SPchief explained it well, so I'll just copy that:

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If you locate something of interest.. ANYTHING.. deals on apparel, best ways in/out of the stadium, giveaways, great stories from this season or from seasons gone by, rumors, trades, anything.... feel free to post it here.

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Old 12-09-2012, 10:39 PM   #10051
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Old 12-09-2012, 10:39 PM   #10052
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More info coming in...Royals' owner D. Glass to trade Jack Stack Barbeque and Arthur Bryant's for the rights to the McRib.
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Old 12-09-2012, 10:39 PM   #10053
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There is no silver lining. The team, quite literally, is worse right now. An average RF, which Myers almost certainly would be, is worth more wins than adding Shields to the rotation.

This is so inexplicably stupid that it defies all semblance of reason.
I don't love the trade either, don't get me wrong. But I'll go back to the fact that Starting pitching was the biggest problem and it's undeniably better now with Shields, Santana and Guthrie coming back. In the meantime the team at the major league level lost nothing to aquire that better pitching. We lost great potential in the future, obviously in an effort to win now.

I'm not going to jump off a bridge over potential no matter how good it looked. Of course it could blow up in our face, just like any other move.
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Old 12-09-2012, 10:40 PM   #10054
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There is no silver lining. The team, quite literally, is worse right now. An average RF, which Myers almost certainly would be, is worth more wins than adding Shields to the rotation.

This is so inexplicably stupid that it defies all semblance of reason.
Further illustrates that this front office doesn't spend a second looking at advanced statistics.
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Old 12-09-2012, 10:40 PM   #10055
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Old 12-09-2012, 10:41 PM   #10056
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Gladly would have flipped Kelly, Rosenthal, or even Miller.
A more accurate approximate trade would be something like Wainwright and Kelly.

That's essentially what the Rays just gave up here. They gave up an established veteran with #1 ability and a playoff pedigree, plus a strong-armed reliever who's stuff profiles better for relief than it does the rotation.

So would you give up WW and Kelly for Myers? As a fan, I wouldn't. Waino is my favorite Cardinal so I couldn't make myself do it.

But if I remove my bias and look at it from a pure baseball perspective? Yeah, I think I make the Wainwright and Kelly for Myers deal.

The deal is stupid more for where the Royals are in the competitive cycle than it is for what they gave up. If it's the Angles, Yankees, Dodgers, Giants...hell, even the Cards that make a deal like this, they don't get grief for it (in fact, the Cards did make this deal when they traded for Mulder and most pundits liked it at the time...until it kicked us in the ass).

BUt the Royals aren't there yet and aren't going to spend the money needed to get there.
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So let's just establish this right now: This trade means that anything short of making the playoffs in '13 is an epic disaster and demands that DM be fired.

Don't even try to pussy-foot around this otherwise.
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So let's just establish this right now: This trade means that anything short of making the playoffs in '13 is an epic disaster and demands that DM be fired.

Don't even try to pussy-foot around this otherwise.
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More from BG: the Royals F.O fear Myers is a bat w/out pop like a Nick Markakis, why they decided to trade him
Then what the **** do they see in FRANCOUER?

Dummies.

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Then what the **** do they see in FRANCOUER?

Dummies.

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yeah, he had like no home-runs last year. ****. yep, makes sense to me.
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Then what the **** do they see in FRANCOUER?

Dummies.

Heart. Miles and miles of heart.

Werent they also complaining last year that Myers was still pretty immature?
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So let's just establish this right now: This trade means that anything short of making the playoffs in '13 is an epic disaster and demands that DM be fired.

Don't even try to pussy-foot around this otherwise.
that is a good thing. It should be that way every year.
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. Yeah, I mean, why would you think Myers has any raw power?

**** advanced metrics; the Royals don't even monitor traditional slash lines for their minor league players.
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